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Anabolic Discussion Board Myth about Cutting Cycles
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Author | Topic: Myth about Cutting Cycles |
el cubano Moderator (Total posts: 359) |
posted April 11, 2000 05:40 PM
There is absolutely no Anabolic Steroid made that will cut you up. NONE! The only reason you use certain anabolics during cutting cycles is because the ones like primo, winny and eq do not cause water retention and they help harden the muscle. The only way to get cut up is to do cardio and eat right to lose fat! There is absolutely no other way to cut up! LOSE THE FAT AND WATER RETENTION! ------------------ IP: Logged |
AZQuadz Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted April 11, 2000 06:01 PM
Bump WELL SAID! IP: Logged |
Romeo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 11, 2000 06:05 PM
yeah thats what i was going to say....ive never juiced but i know many people who have ..and they tell me that depending on what you want to accomplish ...if you eat alot you will gain alot....if you do alot of cardio you will get cut Just what ive heard ..dont know if its true or not IP: Logged |
demaroid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 118) |
posted April 11, 2000 07:13 PM
I have heard though that some A.S. were catabolic to fat while remaining anabolic to muscle. Is this true and if so which A.S's if not let me know thanks! I personally only do bulking cycles as it is very easy for me to cut up so I have never done any extensive research into this theory. LIVE MASSIVE DEMAROID IP: Logged |
The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 609) |
posted April 11, 2000 07:46 PM
YUP!!!!! Nuff Said!!! Ranger IP: Logged |
BigQuadz Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 172) |
posted April 11, 2000 07:59 PM
The AS should help you maintain your muscle while dieting and doing alot of cardio correct? IP: Logged |
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2243) |
posted April 11, 2000 07:59 PM
Thank you!!
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Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 240) |
posted April 11, 2000 08:03 PM
What about trenbelone acetate- I thought it was reported a good fat burner. IP: Logged |
komododragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted April 12, 2000 07:53 AM
Well, not that I would argue with a monitor, but on my first cycle of sust it seemed to me that my metabolism overall was really jacked up, which if would cause me to burn more fat. Jezz at night as soon as I would hit the sack, I'd start sweating like a hog. At work sitting at my desk with the airconditioner vent blowing on me I'd be sweating. Seems that with my body temp and metabolism up I would have to be burning more calories than normal. Having said that, I did not lose BF during the cycle (well maybe 1-2%), but hey I was eating like a horse. One last point. I did not experience the night sweats or reved up metabolism when I did my Ultragan/Primo cycle in January. At the end though I looked more cut, but my BF% was the same as when I started. IP: Logged |
komododragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted April 12, 2000 07:54 AM
Well, not that I would argue with a monitor, but on my first cycle of sust it seemed to me that my metabolism overall was really jacked up, which if would cause me to burn more fat. Jezz at night as soon as I would hit the sack, I'd start sweating like a hog. At work sitting at my desk with the airconditioner vent blowing on me I'd be sweating. Seems that with my body temp and metabolism up I would have to be burning more calories than normal. Having said that, I did not lose BF during the cycle (well maybe 1-2%), but hey I was eating like a horse. One last point. I did not experience the night sweats or reved up metabolism when I did my Ultragan/Primo cycle in January. At the end though I looked more cut, but my BF% was the same as when I started. IP: Logged |
Deepsquat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 499) |
posted April 12, 2000 08:00 AM
The same myth perpetuates itself in reguards to cutting exercises...when will they learn?(leg extentions are the best example) IP: Logged |
2EZ2BRICH Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 45) |
posted April 12, 2000 08:08 AM
now you tell me. after an expensive primo/winny/clen/dnp cycle. hehehe J/K very true. anyone with a high BF% will not appreciate a so called "cutting cycle". just my .02 2ez2brich IP: Logged |
DoctorSavage Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 153) |
posted April 12, 2000 08:28 AM
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Certain anabolic steroids do have a "fat burning" effect. What they do is interfere with the way the body stores fats, instead using the calories to maintain complex proteins in the body (i.e. muscle tissue). Trenbolone does this very well while D-bol does it poorly. This is not a well researched phenomenon, and nowhere near completely understood, but there was a good article in Lancet about this in '98. IP: Logged |
Orbitus Teranium Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 46) |
posted April 12, 2000 09:19 AM
After a big bulking cycle I like to do a nice cutting cycle like Fina/winny/EQ, but the drugs in the cutting cycle wont make you cut fat, but will keep your muscle you gained on your bulking cycle while you are dieting and doing cardio. IP: Logged |
el cubano Moderator (Total posts: 359) |
posted April 12, 2000 02:29 PM
Hey doctor Savage, not trying to flame but did you just read the first line of my post or did you read the whole thing. I stated that all AS will increase metabolism, some more than others, which means that they help burn fat! Even dbol will help you burn fat but you wouldn't know it cuz you'll be bloated, but think of it like this, if you ate as much as you did on dbol when you are off a cycle you'd be a fucking fat ass blimp so in turn using common sense the dbol is not only turning those extra cals into muscle but also preventing those cals from becoming fat. Now for those who need things spelled out for them I am not talking about absolutes here. You can get fat from eating tooooo much while on AS, but the AS are utilizing more calories than usual. If done correctly you can effectively cut fat with any cycle you choose, the only difference is that when you use something that bloats you you have a hard time noticing until the water is gone! ------------------ IP: Logged |
ectomorph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 169) |
posted April 12, 2000 02:42 PM
What a/b cytomel?? ------------------ IP: Logged |
bigmofo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 35) |
posted April 12, 2000 03:18 PM
cytomel is not an AS but a thyroid hormone. big difference IP: Logged |
ectomorph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 169) |
posted April 12, 2000 03:40 PM
i guess thats the diff between gear and AS IP: Logged |
OMEGALOS Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted April 12, 2000 03:50 PM
bump it up! IP: Logged |
100acrewoods Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121) |
posted April 12, 2000 04:15 PM
what is the difference? If you are burning fat and building muscle, isn't that the same as cutting up? IP: Logged |
Roy Batty Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 35) |
posted April 12, 2000 04:15 PM
Very true, el cubano. You can get cut up and all veiny on A50 if you tweak your food right. Bump. IP: Logged |
quenepo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 310) |
posted April 12, 2000 08:38 PM
The most important is what you eat. quenepo IP: Logged |
TEXASAMM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 37) |
posted April 12, 2000 09:15 PM
Good post E.C. BUMP
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BigDallas Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted April 12, 2000 09:50 PM
steroids simply make it easier for you to lose fat while still adding muscle. eat a lot, but eat right- that's the key IP: Logged |
DoctorSavage Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 153) |
posted April 12, 2000 09:58 PM
El Cubano, Yep read the whole thing, I was just trying to highlight the possibility that a bilogical mechanisim for fat reduction beyond the increased protein synthesis is possible, and no I didn't take it as a flame. No one is the keeper of all knowledge. Thats why I come here. If you feel like flaming me, go to town, I wear asbestos underwear ------------------ IP: Logged |
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