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Marauder
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posted April 10, 2000 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marauder   Click Here to Email Marauder     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bros, I don't want to sound stupid..but what exactly is denkadiol? It sounds cool, and I hear yall talk about it some, but I can't figure out what it is..Thanks in advance!WHOOOOOOOH!!

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Marauder
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posted April 10, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marauder   Click Here to Email Marauder     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody? BTW I'm sorry for such a bitch ass question!

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the truth
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posted April 10, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Methandriol dipropionate made by Denkall. Check out ausvet.com.

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Marauder
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posted April 10, 2000 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marauder   Click Here to Email Marauder     Edit/Delete Message
is it worth a shit?

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Wess1017
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posted April 10, 2000 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wess1017   Click Here to Email Wess1017     Edit/Delete Message
It is the australian form of nandrolone decanoate aka Deca and it is the best Deca on the market. Brovel is underdosed and the Mexican version.

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Splapps23
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posted April 10, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Splapps23     Edit/Delete Message
Methandriol dipropionate is not the Ausy version of deca. This is a anabolic which proportedly works synergistically with other AS and is said to "up-regulate" receptors, allowing for a greater percentage of gear to bind with the steroid receptor.

Never used it but I've heard it really works well when stacked.

[This message has been edited by Splapps23 (edited April 10, 2000).]

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the truth
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posted April 10, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
It probably binds to SHBG very tightly, thus freeing up more of whatever other AS you're taking to bind to androgen receptors.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 10, 2000 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
TRUTH
that is
the
TRUTH

Or at least the most popular theory- the other is that it reduces the production of SHBG- however in either case the effect is the same- more free Gear to bind to your receptors

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Milk_Man
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posted April 10, 2000 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
that is not the truth because free testosterone does very little outside the receptor. SHBG is the only thing that can transports testosterone molecules into cells to activate the receptors. Without SHBG binding, testosterone can not reach the receptor. And even when it does get transported into the cell, there is another receptor for SHBG that has to be activated for the AA receptor to work to it full potential. If MD binded to SHGB, preventing other steroids from binding, it would hinder your results. What MD does, is it uses the estrogen receptors to increase IGF-1 and to upregulate AR. Thats why you always see it with anabolics and not with androgens. As far as the rumor that it is estrogenic, well I bet the people that say that have never even seen a bottle of this stuff. Clomid is estrogenic, so are a million other things. It attaches to the estrogen receptors but does not activate them to the extent of causing Gyno.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 11, 2000 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
MILK MAN I REALIZE YOU THINK YOUR RIGHT- BUT UNFORTUNATELY YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG.

TESTOSTERONE, OR ANY ANDROGEN FOR THAT MATTER, THAT IS BOUND TO SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) IS NOT ACTIVE- THE TYPES OF ANDROGENS THAT ARE ACTIVE ARE FREE AND WEAKLY BOUND- WHICH MEANS BOUND TO ALBUMIN- NOT TO SHBG. methandriol supposedly works by decreasing either production of SHBG or it binds to SHBG more strongly than some or all androgens- thus "free-ing" them.

so this basically means- in more scientific words that

Free and weakly bound testosterone (FWBT), also referred to as bioavailable testosterone, is thought to reflect an individual's biologically active, circulating testosterone. FWBT includes free testosterone and testosterone that is bound to albumin. FWBT does not include sex hormone binding globulin-bound testosterone. The SHBG-bound fraction is biologically inactive because of the high binding affinity of SHBG for testosterone. The rapid dissociation of "weakly bound" testosterone from albumin results in the availability of essentially all albumin-bound testosterone for steroid-receptor interaction

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Milk_Man
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posted April 11, 2000 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
You can belive what you want, what I said is not something I imagined. But I do understand how someone like you can get confused on this subject. PS, I did not just show up here a couple of days ago, I have been around for 3 years on other boards and I used to belive what you just said, but its plain wrong.

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Dutch
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posted April 11, 2000 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Milk_man not many people dare to argue with macro.. i credit you for that..

>> what I said is not something I imagined.

where do you get your info.. ? is there a study or something we can read ? webpage with info ? Same question for macro.. were can i read more about this.. ?

Thanks, Dutch

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Milk_Man
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posted April 11, 2000 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milk_Man   Click Here to Email Milk_Man     Edit/Delete Message
You can go to medline and do a search but good luck at getting thru all the bs and unrelated topics. The truth is if you want to find out for yourself no web-page will give you the answers. You have to start somewhere and figure it out for yourself. As far as my statement goes, its common sence when your aware of the function and interaction between AS and SHBG. I know it seems strange but would you belive DHT is healthy for your prostate. and so is testosterone. Both compounds protect it. Its only when you add estrogen things get messed up. Sevral studies have proved this but people still go around claiming how bad DHT is.

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Dutch
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posted April 11, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
thanks milk_man... this is also the first time i hear that DHT is actually good for the prostate ! i find that hard to believe, i will give medline a try..

thanks again.

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die_hard842
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posted April 11, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for die_hard842   Click Here to Email die_hard842     Edit/Delete Message
Information on Denkadiol (the best anabolic, next to primobolan depot):
DESCRIPTION:
Denkadiol. It is a non-virility promoting containing 75mg/ml of Methandriol Dipropinonate.
ACCION:
Denkadiol is used in promoting the formation, tissue bone fracture repair, as well as counteracting the debilitating of cortisone therapy or enema. Its potent action on the protein anabolism favors formation and restoration of tissue. Denkadiol is considered one of the safest anabolic steroids in both male and female animals when used in recommended dosage.
Denkadiol is used in subject to an intense work schedule; three to four weeks of treatment are needed for an optimal physical conditioning.
ADMINISTRATION:
This is an intra muscular injection.
PRESENTATION:
Injectable suspension in a 10ml vial.
RECOMMENED DOSAGE:
3-5ml a week.
I consider this to be the safest supplement in the world!!!
I hope this helps our fellow athletes understand Denkadiol.

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gearseeker
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posted April 11, 2000 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
Denkadiol/Methandriol Diproprionate is very effective for bulking cycles. Used at 75-150mg every third day with test and deca, it does add considerably to cycle strength. For me it lowers the amount of anti-estrogens I need to control gyno too.

I dont know the science behind it, but it has been effective enough for me that I use it for every bulking cycle.

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Dutch
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posted April 11, 2000 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks die_hard842. Guess you like it..

How often do you have to inject Methandriol ?
and what is the minimal effectieve dose ?
I have some drive which only contains 30 mg/ml methandriol dipropionate. I did not plan to take it with my next sust cycle. What do you think ?

Dutch

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jocko
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posted April 11, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jocko     Edit/Delete Message
Another site to look at is: www.geocities.com/~bodybuilding/STERIODS.htm
D for Drive
M for Methandriol Dipropionate
S for Spectriol
peace

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airtyme
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posted April 11, 2000 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
I am using it right now with eq and sust. I do seem to be getting a better response than my first cycle with out it.

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