posted April 10, 2000 12:25 PM         

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Thinking of doing first cycle of D-bol. Is clen good to stack for excess water retention and clomid to keep gains? And what kind of gains can I expect?
Current Stats: 6'0 185-190 lbs.

Please help.

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posted April 10, 2000 01:16 PM         

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Are you afraid of needles? Really, they aren't that bad at all. I would not use dbol and clen together, though.
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posted April 10, 2000 01:22 PM            

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I say this alot and I guess I'll have to keep saying it.

You should set solid, non-conflicting goals, bulk or cut...not both.

Try dbol and primoblan or fina. That should keep your water retention to a low while allowing you to bulk.

I sincerely hope your not doing a dbol/clen cycle because you're needle-shy. If so I think you're going to find your ability to design effective stacks limited.

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posted April 10, 2000 02:44 PM         

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Thanks for the advice guys. Yes I am "needle wary" but wanted to do a first cycle of a bulker to start out. My main goal is to bulk so if that helps you give me sound stacking advice.....let 'em rip guys.

Thanks! Want to gain 20-25 lbs.

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