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TwinGATs
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posted April 09, 2000 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
When you start off with high, I thought you wouldn't make gains at the end when you taper off.....I have all ways used the start arrow plan.....what are the theories with the different methods.....

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vexed
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posted April 09, 2000 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vexed   Click Here to Email vexed     Edit/Delete Message
I cant remember who said it first to me I think it was either biz or macro but they said you hit your receptors hard while they are fresh with big dosages because there is no reason to increase a dosage on already saturated receptors. And this makes much sense to me; I think about it like this; you taper at the end to slowly come off so you dont shock your body and lose it all but why would you not want to shock your body when you start? You want to all of the sudden gain right? Jumpstart your body with that big dosage and taper at the end... if any of the gods have anything to add please do as I am merely a deciple...

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TwinGATs
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posted April 09, 2000 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
but wouldn't it be hard to make gains at the end.......

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Sittin' On Diesel
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posted April 09, 2000 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah heard that too (starting w/ high doses)... anyone have any experience on this? Also heard about where people haven't tapered cycles claiming that the drugs taper themselves (having to do with the halflife of the drugs)...

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vexed
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posted April 09, 2000 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vexed   Click Here to Email vexed     Edit/Delete Message
why would it be harder to make gains at the end?

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TwinGATs
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posted April 09, 2000 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
Cause you have had high doses in your system all along, then you cut the dose.....you aren't going to keep make the same kinds of gains......

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TwinGATs
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posted April 10, 2000 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TwinGATs   Click Here to Email TwinGATs     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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WCP
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posted April 10, 2000 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Start high and end high..with most gear there is no reason to taper..unless your looking at a huge crash at the end..keep some clomid to end your cycle with..that will help..and smack your receptors hard...
later,
WCP

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THESAINT
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posted April 10, 2000 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
When you start high you load a fresh
empty receptor. As the half life erodes
you are only replacing what has depleted
to keep the receptor full. For instance,
if it takes 750mgs of sust. to load
a receptor and only 375 to 500mgs erode each
week because sust. has a 10 to 14 day
half life, then you only have to replace
the 375 to 500mgs that have been used
to keep your receptors full and your
gains coming.

[This message has been edited by THESAINT (edited April 10, 2000).]

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lestat
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posted April 10, 2000 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lestat     Edit/Delete Message
I used to use the arrow method and have now changed to loading my receptors at the beginning of a cycle, I have made far better gains using this method.

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squatter
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posted April 10, 2000 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squatter   Click Here to Email squatter     Edit/Delete Message
because I'm a tested athlete, I prefer short, heavy cycles. So I don't have time to taper up or down. The results of doing this cause me to beleive that this may be a better method than tapering up. If I had time I would probably taper down, but not up.

PEACE!!

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