posted April 08, 2000 11:01 PM         

I found the discussion very interesting. You have an agreement in this point:

... steroids should not be used by anyone unless they are highly experienced in weightlifting, bodybuilding, or another type of competitive sport that requires year-round training.

I really don't agree at all.
Not everybody juicing or thinking in is an experienced user. Please realize it is and it'll allways be this way. Why?
There are many people out there looking for or having jobs as models, actors, singers, bouncers, fighters, athletes, boxers, etc.

They must consider improving their phisique for getting (or keeping) that job.
There is a big group looking to improve to get "unsingle".
Then comes key factor: TIME. They need to do this quick. This is why they focus AS. If this weren't the case they would choose creatine.
It means that, in my focus, MOST of the people doing first cycle is NOT experienced (less than 1-2 yrs training).

Now to TEST vs NOTEST,
Suppouse you are hoping to be selected for that picture session, to be well paid (1k$), then you train hard and take 600mg Test/wk. Then, finally, you go the selection and...oops...ur out because you have few hair! Even taking Finasteride 10mg (proscar x 2) there are individuals losing hair on test. In this case better to deal with deca dick. 2-3 months, u'll be better.

Now, suppose you are fighting to get that bouncer job, then you dont really care about gyno, hair, blood pressure, etc. Go for 1000mg test/wk or cpt insane cycle. Maybe somebody could agree you can add some insuline.

BBers don't have an agreement about what to take, what is better, and how much. This (I think) is mainly because some of them are married, some don't, some have kids, some don't, some are gay, some don't. Some of them don't care in crossing law for getting AS (as most of us).
Some of them even ARE READY TO DIE.
I don't.

They are different, then different solutions. Easy.