posted April 08, 2000 08:36 PM         

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ok i am 19 years old and have been lifting for a 4 years. this is the cycle i was planning on doing. know i hear i already have enough test, but whats some more gonna do? if u know tell me. all of a sudden one post is made and test shouldnt be taken by young guys?? im not sure thats why im asking.

deca-400mgs a week for 8 weeks
dbal- 6,6,5,5, etc
sust or t200
clomid and noveldex if need be.

should i take out the test?? what do you guys think?? i want the biggest gains possible. bc really i would rather look good now then in my fifty's, and older. if roids will take some years off my life, i dont give a shit if i die at 70 or 75, live life to its fullest now bc you may not see tommorrow!!! please let me get some advice
thanks bros!!!!!

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posted April 08, 2000 08:41 PM            

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everyone is going to have a different opinion..I like the SUS better..just my choice..SUS with Deca..then start stacking d-bol..and kick it with some Clomid..keep some Nolvadex on hand just in case. It's all good.

If it's your first cycle..you don't have to get all complex..again..just my opinion

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posted April 08, 2000 08:46 PM         

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Hey aceguy, you should life long enough to enjoy your gains ! No need for this kamikaze attitude. Personaly i think you do not need the sust yet (with the dbol).
others may disagree. Check 2thick's post !
the choice is yours !

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posted April 09, 2000 01:36 AM            

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Hey I dont think that is the attitude to have. That is recklace. That is only going to hurt you. You are 19 years old and already you are hitting this stuff hardcore. I am not going to be hypocritical however, because I am 18. The difference between me and you is that I am doing one cycle of just test prop at 200 to 400 mgs and that is it. I am also doing this for college football, and to give me a boost to getting stronger. I want to do this and still be able to grow some. I would like to completely fill out to being as tall as I can possibly be. I agree with the people that are saying that you need to be at least in your twenties and fully developed and had worked out for a few years. I dont doubt that you know what you are doing in terms of working out and I am not trying to sound like a dick, because I understand what you are saying and I have thought about AS the same way. The way I see it AS can be carefully methodically scientifically used with a doctors care, or they can be abused. And by the way, I am getting monitored by a doctor for this usage and I will also have some Arimidex handy for any unfortunate occurances. Also, I would never want to stunt my growth or permanently affect the workings of my body, because when I am 50 I am not going to want to feel like crap knowing that I am going to die in a couple of years. The gear wont be doing anything for me then besides making me bald.

So my recommendation is that you take 200-400mg of test prop with a doctors care. This because I know you know what you are doing. And again I not trying to be condescending or hypocritical. I understand what you are saying. And please respond if you are playing any sports in college and make me sound like an idiot.

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posted April 09, 2000 09:34 AM            

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2Thick had a nice post regarding usage of test, and he made the statement that it shouldn't be used by newbies. I then emailed him to inquire about this, he said his post was aimed at most of the "kids" out there that have only been lifting for maybe eight months and don't necessarily have their diet in order either. Also, he claimed that a great deal of them go way too high on the dosage initially expecting "miracles" without all of the hard work and discipline that goes with it. That being said, you can make your own evaluation.

deltman

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