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agentsmith
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 15)
posted April 08, 2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agentsmith   Click Here to Email agentsmith     Edit/Delete Message
If you use email like excite, yahoo, hotmail, ect. Sending an email is just like sending a post-card, anyone (who knows how) can read it. Hushmail.com encrypts emails to other hushmail users. No need to even give your name. Try it out!

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BIG RICK ROCK
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
HEY YOU WHERE GREAT IN THE MATRIX I'M GONNA GIVE NEO A CALL AND TELL HIM TO MAKE ME SOM ENCRYPTING SOFWARE,

nah but really you are right, the feds can read any bodys E-mail they chose, I sucks but it's part of the game

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deltman
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posted April 08, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deltman   Click Here to Email deltman     Edit/Delete Message
He does make a good point, I just got hushmail myself. I've been told it's totally secure by prominent individuals on the board.

deltman

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greenhouse
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greenhouse   Click Here to Email greenhouse     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43682495
DAMN IT BIG RICK ROCK!!!! I WAS JUST THINKING THAT. I HAVE HAD HUSHMAIL FOR ABOUT 3 MONTHS AND HAVE EVEN POSTED SOMETHING ONE TIME ABOUT EVERYONE SWITCHING OVER. SMART IDEA FOR ALL OF US. I HAVE AN ACCOUNT FOR JUICE STUFF AND ANOTHER JUST FOR OTHER SHIT.
I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE BLUE PILL...
PEACE

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Quadzilla43
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla43     Edit/Delete Message
Bump this up, everyone should be getting hushmail.

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RideHard
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RideHard   Click Here to Email RideHard     Edit/Delete Message
Good call. But everyone should know that if your sending an email to a non-hushmail user it won't be encrypted...
Still it would be great if evryone used it.

Go Big-

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Platinum
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message
If a human makes it, a human can break it. Hushmail is the best thing out there but think about it, it can still be broken into, with the right software/hardware. Do not lull yourself into a false sense of security. Trust no one. Oh and by the way I do have a hushmail account.

Platinum

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Dutch
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posted April 08, 2000 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
check this:
http://www.gilc.org/speech/anonymous/remailer.html

Dutch

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Mr. T
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Bump for Hushmail-

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Sittin' On Diesel
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sittin' On Diesel   Click Here to Email Sittin' On Diesel     Edit/Delete Message
What's to stop the admins at hushmail for reading your stuff? Who are the guys that run this thing anyways?

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silent trigger
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posted April 08, 2000 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silent trigger   Click Here to Email silent trigger     Edit/Delete Message
I agree, for the moment hushmail seems to be the most secure. that is until something new comes along or we find out that we have all been had and the man is the one responsible for establishing hushmail just to gather intel. wow! maybe I am being paranoid.

be smart, live long, and get pumped not punked!!

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Jay Z
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posted April 09, 2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
I have an account at hushmail . I just don't like that java that takes time to load up..oh well, that's what we have to pay for security.

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Rich1
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posted April 09, 2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
If you really want to get some tough encryption software you can get a download from some of the sites that distibute a package called PGP(Pretty Good Privacy)MIT has a site offering copies for free, it's tough even for the feds to break it. Good program, get it for free.Just do a search under the key word "PGP"..lol

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Pubert
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posted April 09, 2000 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pubert   Click Here to Email Pubert     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Rich1. Any software with 128 bit encryption is a no go for anyone! The gov't was trying to outlaw it because they'd never be able to crack it.

With today's technology, it would take all the computers in the world 4 times the age of the universe to crack a 128 bit encrypted file...no shit!

Go with something like PGP if you're really paranoid.

And the Matrix is real man! Its real!

Pubert

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flashman
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 09, 2000 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flashman   Click Here to Email flashman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48942457
Don't be on the offencive and worry about getting hacked just get the proper tools and nuke anyone who sticks his nose in your bussiness

For those who dont were to start download check out a free program called "hotline" it gives u access to every possible internet secruity program on the face of the whole wide world.

and of course the programs that let u read others mail and tons of other shit
http://cgi.bigredh.com/hotline2/global_nav.html

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flashman
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posted April 09, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flashman   Click Here to Email flashman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48942457
Don't be on the offensive and worry about getting hacked just get the proper tools and nuke anyone who sticks his nose in your business

For those who don�t were to start check out a free program called "hotline" it gives u access to every possible internet security program on the face of the whole wide world.

and of course the programs that let u read others mail and tons of other shit
http://cgi.bigredh.com/hotline2/global_nav.html

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t48
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posted April 09, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for t48   Click Here to Email t48     Edit/Delete Message
I have a couple of good friend who work for the FBI and there is no way they can keep track of this thing we call the internet. Those they really want to catch are the child pornographers, and even that is a huge task.

However, drawing unecessary attention to yourself will not help. For the most part, I think we're ok. But, this board in general may become a target some day.

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Y2Kylee
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posted April 09, 2000 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Y2Kylee   Click Here to Email Y2Kylee     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68011232
Hush is the way to go!

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Puc
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posted April 09, 2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
THE FEDS ARE NOT AFTER US (all caps, I had too...)

THE FEDS ARE AFTER THE DEALERS!!!!

QUIT BEING PARANOID!!!!!!!

geesh...

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1 Mistake
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 09, 2000 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1 Mistake     Edit/Delete Message
The Feds have COMPLETE access to any e-mail,INCLUDING hushmail. Trust me-it showed up in my court documents.........

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LittleSavage34
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posted April 09, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleSavage34   Click Here to Email LittleSavage34     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 51221561
BUMP

This sounds like a good idea.

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t48
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posted April 09, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t48   Click Here to Email t48     Edit/Delete Message
oh, i imagine if they want it to build a case after the fact it is pretty easy to get. but by and large they aren't watching any of us on a regular basis.

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Roy Batty
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 10, 2000 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
If you're really worried about complete privacy, there is only one program out there
that I know of that can give it to you.

It's called freedom 1.1 from zeroKnowledge systems.

1. It encrypts your email before it leaves your computer. Your message then travels on Freedom's own network to it's destination,bouncing your email from Freedom server to Freedom server (each server then strips off the old headers and adds it's own) where it is decrypted on the recipient's computer. (both must be using freedom)

2. You will create your own psuedonyms (fake names) for your emails and the freedom network doesn't even know who you are. So, in essence if The Gestapo wanted Freedom to give you up it would be nearly impossible.
(I suppose anything's possible but not probable)

3. When you are surfing the net you have the option to surf over freedom's network where your browser requests are bounced from one server to the next(just like your emails)preventing the receiving server from knowing where you really came from.:-)

It's pretty damned ingenius in my humble opinion. Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

You can find out more infoHERE

Just thought I'd weigh in on this since alot of you are concerned.
BTW I don't work for Freedom, nor am I promoting them.
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[This message has been edited by Roy Batty (edited April 10, 2000).]

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Rock_Man
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 10, 2000 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
I've heard a lot about hushmail yet when I went to use it, it says that it doesn't work well with IE. Better with Netscape? It was constantly giving me problems and was more trouble than it was worth. Can anyone tell me if it is any better for me to give it a second look?

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Roy Batty
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 11, 2000 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
BTW, the freedom program sounds complicated, but it does everything automatically for you.

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"I've done...questionable things"

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E2
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posted April 11, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I'm reading your mail right now......mmmmm so you like rubber dolls eh?

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Roy Batty
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 11, 2000 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah rubber dolls don't talk back and never want to go shopping.

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"I've done...questionable things"

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Blood4Blood
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 11, 2000 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blood4Blood     Edit/Delete Message
Chances are if someone was going to try and bust you, it would be the very person your sending the email to, not someone just "goin fishing" and scanning emails at random. I mean, encrytion is good and all for stoping people from viewing it in transit, but most of the time the person that would be responsible for nailing you would be the reciever of the email. http://www.anonymizer.com
lets you to send mail annonymously for free but you gotta subscribe for the really good stuff

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airtyme
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posted April 11, 2000 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
thanks

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Primo57
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posted April 11, 2000 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
PGP is also a good alternative to Hushmail;
but it is a little bit harder to deal with.
There is also Anon mail, but I can't remember
the name offhand. In the meantime, EVERYONE
GET HUSHMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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buck o five
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posted April 11, 2000 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for buck o five   Click Here to Email buck o five     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59192752
It doesn't matter if the message is encrypted or not all they have to do is decrypt it if they want to. Having an encrypted mail message makes it more private but it also makes it makes them more interested in finding out what is being said. No email is safe for the simple fact that everyone e-mails from and specific IP address and that IP address is in your message preference. I can tell you the safest way to send any messages is through ICQ - fake account in a fake name and you can tell it to hide you IP address on istalling a new user to ICQ.
I'm a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer and I own an Internet Advertising company which deals solely on e-mail so if you would like more info on this matter you can e-mail me

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buck o five
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posted April 12, 2000 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buck o five   Click Here to Email buck o five     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 59192752
I think everybody should read this so I'm going to

BUMP!!!!!!

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