posted April 08, 2000 01:52 PM         

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is more than 400mgs a week of deca to much, would i be wasting it if i uped the dosege to 600mgs a week?

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posted April 08, 2000 01:57 PM            

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The average dosage for men is in the area of 200-400 mg per week; for women 50-100 mg per week.

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posted April 08, 2000 02:09 PM            

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Deca Durabolin is the Organon brand name for nandrolone decanoate. World wide Deca is one of the most popular injectable steroids. It's popularity is likely due to the fact that Deca exhibits significant anabolic effects with minimal androgenic side effects. Considered by many the best overall steroid for a man to use (side effects vs. results) Deca is most commonly injected once per week at a dosage of 200-400mg. With this amount, estrogen conversion is slight so gyno is usually not a problem. Also uncommon are problems with liver enzymes, blood pressure or cholesterol levels. At higher dosages, side effects may become increasingly more frequent, but this is still a very well tolerated drug. It should also be noted that in HIV studies, Deca has been shown not only to be effective at safely bringing up the lean bodyweight of patient but also to be beneficial to the immune system. For bodybuilding, Deca can effectively be incorporated in both mass and cutting cycles. One major drawback to Deca is that it can be detected in a drug screen for as long as a year after use. Unfortunately for many competitive athletes, this makes Deca and other nandrolone products off limits. Deca is also a comparatively expensive anabolic. Black market, 200mg of Deca will cost upwards of $20 in most instances. In the U.S., one would commonly find the Mexican veterinary version Norandren 50 from Brovel in Mexico. This is a 50ml vial of what is supposed to be 50mg/ml nandrolone decanoate. Brovel Labs however, has a reputation for underdosing their products and this may be closer to 35mg/ml. Extraboline and Deca-Durabolin from Greece are also commonly found, Extraboline usually being slightly cheaper. Retabolil from Bulgaria ("Russian Deca") is another commonly found product. These ampoules come one to a box and in 25mg and 50mg strength, the 50mg being almost exclusively brought to the US. The ampoules have no band around the neck and no scoring. The larger box comes with a file, which is required to open this ampoule. These ampoules have been made with 2 labeling styles, the first being a very easy to rub off red and yellow silk-screen directly on the glass and the other being the simple paper label with gray text. Deca is also widely counterfeited in countless forms so caution should be taken when purchasing this on the black market.
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<b>Deca-Durabolin:</B> (nandrolone decanate) 200mg/vial, 1cc or 2cc
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This is an injectable steroid that is a derivative of 19-nortestosterone. It is a favorite to thousands of steroid users. Deca is a low androgenic steroid, with high anabolic properties. It is excellent for developing size and strength. It does not have very little liver toxicity nor does it disturb the body�s own hormone functions excessively. Deca will aromatize in high dosages, but not at the rate of testosterone�s or other high androgenic compounds. This drug can be used for cutting or for bulking. Athletes have stacked it with virtually every drug and come out with positive results. It is a good base drug on any cycle. Deca can be used by almost all athletes and give positive results while presenting very few side effects.
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Women use this drug but only in very low dosages; 50 mg per week. Deca has been established as a great soother of sore joints and tendons. Athletes report that sore shoulders, knees, and/or elbows are somehow without pain on the Deca cycle. This may be substantiated by proving it reduces the amount of cortisol getting into muscle tissue during the cycle. Deca also dramatically improves nitrogen retention and recuperation time between workouts. Deca also dramatically improves nitrogen retention and recuperation time between workouts. Deca has shown up positive on more steroid tests than any other steroid. This is due to the fact that so many athletes use it, and that it stays in the system at a detectable level for up to a year.
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The drug itself is effective for about two weeks. Average dosages of this drug are from 200 � 400 mg per week for men. Deca used to be the most available drug on the black market, but it is fading fast. It is still available legitimately under the LyphoMed name, as well as Organon, Ruby and Steris, to name the most common labels.
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<b>Deca-Durabolin:</B>
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Brand Names:
Anabolicum,
Anabolin LA-100,
Anaboline,
Androlone-D 200,
Deca-Durabolin,
Deca-Durabolin 100,
Depo-Nandrolone,
Dequibolin-100,
Elpihormo,
Extraboline,
Hybolin Decanoate,
Jebolan,
Kabolin,
Nandrolate,
Nandrolone Decanoate,
Nandrol Decanoate,
Nandrobolic L.A.,
Neo-Durabolic,
Norandren 50,
Norandren 200,
Nurezan,
Pri-Andriol LA,
Retabolil,
Retabolin,
Sterobolin,
Turinabol Depot,
Ziremilon,
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Description:
Deca can come in many different strengths: 25, 50, 100, and 200-mgs/cc varieties., no oral versions of Deca produced. Deca-Durabolin is probably the all time most popular steroid (except for maybe Dianabol if you could actually find some). Deca produces very few side effects. It is easy on the liver and promotes good size and strength gains while reducing body fat.
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Deca-Durabolin is highly anabolic and only moderately androgenic. It works by promoting a positive nitrogen balance in the body, which causes the muscles to be able to use more protein, more efficiently than normal. It does this by causing the muscle cells to store more nitrogen than they are releasing. With this positive nitrogen balance, the muscle cells will be able to use more protein than they usually can. If you don't eat and sleep enough though, the magic will not happen.
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It takes three days after injection to dissipate from the site and stays active in the body for about 17 days. Gains will go away very slowly after the cycling period if workouts are kept intense. Deca is the worst steroid that you can take if you run the chance of being drug tested. People have been known to test positive up to 1 1/2 years after the last shot. This is a very long time. Keep this in mind if you are in the NCAA or some other organization where you run the risk of being tested.
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Side Effects:
Deca-Durabolin is a relatively safe steroid. Typically, you can expect a little minor acne, higher blood pressure that causes a longer time period for blood to clot, headaches, and increased libido. Any of the following are also possible though: nausea, leukopenia, symptoms resembling a peptic ulcer, acne, edema (water retention), excitation (commonly referred to as roid rage), sleeplessness, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, hypertension, prolonged blood clotting time, increase in libido. Females had reported: menstrual irregularities, post-menopausal bleeding, swelling of the breasts, hoarseness or deepening of the voice, enlargement of the clitoris, and water retention. Men had reported: cases of impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, inhibition of testicular function, oligospermia, and bladder irritability.
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Effective Dose:
400 - 600 mgs/week. Some people say you can get away with less but I have not found that to be true at least with myself. It is easy on you, so I would tend to go the extra mile and take a little more when I can find it.
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Street Price:
$40 per 2 cc. vial at 200 mg. / cc. This steroid is without a doubt the most common one that is counterfeited. You need to check for all the telltale signs, like being able to twist the metal top; you should not be able to turn it by hand if it is real.
You should not be able to scratch the label off easily with your fingernail either. Another common trick is the date. It should be obviously stamped on the bottle. Commonly, counterfeits have the expiration date printed on the label in the same color ink as the rest of the label. It can be black but you can tell a stamp from something that was printed on the label at the same time the label was made. There is usually a dull area on the label where the date is to be stamped as well. Look for it. If it passes all of these tests, it is probably real. There are good counterfeits that will pass all these tests though, so keep that in mind. Just use your head and you should be fine most of the time.
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Stacking Info:
Deca-Durabolin is the "jack of all trades" when it comes to steroids. This is "the steroid" to stack with others. I am convinced that using deca with other drugs is where the term "stacking" originally came from. Deca is typically stacked with many things like dianabol, any of the various testosterones, sostanon 250, anadrol 50, etc, etc for adding large amounts of muscle mass. It can be taken along with anavar, masteron, parabolan, primobolan, etc. if you are looking to add better quality muscle that will stay with you longer and make you look harder since you will have less of the water retention associated with the dbols and testosterones.
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<b>Deca-Durabolin:</B>
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This is considered to be the most popular of all steroids. It is an oil-based injectable that comes in 200 mg/cc and 100 mg/cc containers. Deca produces very few side effects. It is easy on the liver and promotes good size and strength gains while reducing body fat. It only aromatizes (converts to estrogen) in extreme dosages. It is highly anabolic but only moderately androgenic. Deca does shut down natural testosterone production, but its not extreme. Gains will minimally dissipate, if at all, after the cycling period if workouts are kept intense.
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By the way, deca is also the most counterfeited drug on the black market. Comes in 50, 100 and 200 mg per cc strengths. Package in small brownish glass bottles with a green top rubber from Mexico. It seems to be the best of injectables for the cost. Usual dose is 200 mg per week with highs ranging 200 mg a day. The average duration is about 2 to 4 month. There are very few side effects. Blood clotting time is increased so that some people may experience bloody noses when they are dehydrated. Deca-Durabolin is generally considered by athletes and sports medicine physicians to be the safest and most effective injectable anabolic steroid. It is mildly androgenic, and is becoming increasingly popular with women bodybuilders. Although side effects similar to those of other steroids have been reported, the effects are relatively uncommon when compared to other forms of steroids.
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<b>Deca Durabolin:</B> (nandrolone decanoate)
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200 mg/vial, 1 cc or 2 cc.
This is an injectable steroid that is a derivative of 19-Nortestosterone. This product is a favorite to thousands of steroid users. In a survey, it was revealed that Deca is the most widely used and most widely
available steroid in America. It is still being manufactured by numerous domestic pharmaceutical suppliers, and is one of a diminishing number of steroids that are available at American pharmacies. Deca is also the most popularly counterfeited steroid on the market. The drug itself is a moderate androgen, highly anabolic preparation. It has proven to be an excellent product for promoting size and strength gains. It has minimal liver toxicity and only aromatizes in excessive dosages. Deca does have an effect on the body's natural hormone axis yet it is not nearly as pronounced as it is with drugs like testosterone. This steroid has been used for cutting and for bulking. Athletes have stacked it with virtually every drug and reported positive results. It seems to be an excellent base drug on any cycle. Deca can be used by almost all athletes, with positive results and very few side effects. Deca has gained a reputation as being somewhat of an alleviator of sore joints and tendons. Athletes report that sore shoulders, knees and/or elbows are somehow without pain on the Deca cycle. This drug dramatically improves nitrogen retention and recuperation time between workouts. Unfortunately, Deca has very stubborn metabolites, which have been known to show up on a steroid test as long as 12 months after it was administered. This, in combination with the number of athletes using it, has contributed to its showing up on more
steroid tests than any other compound. For this reason, any athlete that has the potential of being subjected to a steroid test should not be using Deca. For those whose worries do not include steroid testing, it remains the number one choice.
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The average dosage for men is in the area of 200-400 mg per week; for women 50-100 mg per week.

thats all the info on deca i have!
hope it helps!

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posted April 08, 2000 06:14 PM            

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MATTY, WHAT BOOK DID YOU GET THAT INFO
FROM? IT SEEMS PRETTY THOROUGH. INTERSTING
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posted April 08, 2000 06:23 PM            

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you can e mail me saint and ill send ya a copy!!

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posted April 08, 2000 07:42 PM         

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I think you need at least 400 a week to see some real gains. I wouldnt go over 600 though. A lot depends on your stack to. Right now I'm at 750 Sus and 450 Deca per week (Clomid EOD) and I have gained 10lbs in two weeks and have an awesome pump all day long-

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posted April 08, 2000 07:58 PM         

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sounds like the one post came out of the world anabolic review

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posted April 08, 2000 08:53 PM            

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yeap , somtin like that!

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posted April 08, 2000 09:35 PM            

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heck yah good info matty

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posted April 08, 2000 09:36 PM            

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i have some deca 2ml bottle 100/cc organon oss holland exp. 2000-04
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top is gray and does not twist ,but exp date is on label is this legit

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