posted April 08, 2000 11:51 AM            

I am so pissed off with this gyno thing. I'm sure I have it now, at least to some degree. I'll have to diet off alot of this fat before I can really see the extent of the damage (I would estimate I am currently btwn 15-20%BF). On one of the other boards a guy asked if gyno can sneek up on you. I would have to say yes. I didn't see alot of the signs of precursors to gyno. I just looked in the mirror one day and thought something looked a little funny with my nipples. They looked erect like I was cold. I thought maybe I was cold because I had just come out of the shower. But I kept an eye on them and they seemed to always be like that. They were not itchy, they may have been a little more tender, like they tend to be when they're erect, but they did not hurt by any means. I ran water on them in the shower and they didn't hurt. I felt around for a lump or "marble" but I don't feel anything. But they do not look normal anymore. You can even see them protruding if I wear a light shirt. I fuckin hate it and I hope that alot of this disappears after I lose some fat and my estrogen levels return to normal. It may be a false hope.

The thing that really pisses me off is that I really didn't think gyno would be a problem for me on this cycle. I don't know why I thought that. I think maybe that my main concern was with losing hair and so I focused all my attention on that. (on the + side I don't think I've lost any). As far as I knew I was not predisposed to gyno. If I had it during puberty I certainly don't remember it. I was also planning on only doing 250mg/wk for 4wks of omandren which may explain why I didn't give gyno too much thought, but I boosted it to 500mg/wk after, ironically, a lack of sides at 250. So if this gyno is estrogenic, which I believe it is, then it was caused by the following:

Week 1: 250mg Omna
Week 2: 250mg Omna
Week 3: 500mg/Omna
Week 4: 500mg/Omna
Week 5: 500mg/Omna (noticed the gyno in this week).

So not very high dosages.

If you read my post last week about the onset of gyno, you'd know that I fucked up and didn't have any nolva on hand. I think it was last Friday that I started to get a little worried and posted a question to the board about gyno because I wasn't sure this is what was wrong. After I got a few answers back I started taking clomid every day. On Tuesday I received my Nolva and started popping those at 40mg/day. It seems to have helped a bit but the nips are definitely not back to normal. It really bothers me because the whole reason for doing this cycle was to improve my appearance which in turn would give me more self-confidence with my appearance. Especially for those occasions where you may take off your shirt. Now I'm embarassed to wear a t-shirt in the gym or even change in the locker room. Fuck'n hell.

Anyway, I've given my gyno rant for now and as you can see it's really bothering me. So what else about this week. Well, Monday I was to inject 200mg deca and 250mg omna. I didn't bother with the omna for reasons given above. So I only injected the deca and what an ordeal that was. Everytime I pushed the pin in was a nightmare. Everytime I got it in deep enough and aspirated there was blood. I don't know where it is all coming from. I stuck myself 5 times before I got one in (the 6th, 3 times in each cheek) that didn't have blood when I aspirated. And even when I had finished the injection and pulled the pin out, the blood came gushing out running down my ass and dripping onto the floor. Thursday I did another injection of deca and got it right the first time. Go figure.

I also started the winstrol this week. I have been drinking it - just mixing it with water. It tastes like shit. On Thursday, however I decided I would try a delt injection with the winny. I think I either hit a nerve (anyone surprised?) or got damn close to one as my muscle started doing the funky chicken (spasms). So I removed the pin and tried the other shoulder. No problems so I injected. It was a little sore but most of the pain has gone away already.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention my gains this week. It would have been easy to do since there weren't any. 0 lbs. Since I only gained about 2 lbs. the week before, I upped my diet a little to try and get back to the 5lbs/wk gains I started out with. The only thing I can think of is that the test is wearing off and perhaps the nolvadex has made me lose some water weight, I don't know for sure.

So after all of this I've decided to bail on this cycle a week early. Next week I will continue to drink the winny at 50mg/day just in case the gyno is progestenic. After all the problems I think that now would be a good time to stop.

Thanks for listening,

Baloney Tits (nee Anabolicum Mr.)

posted April 08, 2000 12:38 PM            

The novaldex will cut into your gains now, and that's most likely why you're not seeing much now.

posted April 08, 2000 05:21 PM            

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