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Greg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted April 08, 2000 01:30 AM
  
This is a revised version for the people that wrote me back the first time, In my post New Guy Here. I thank everyone for the advice and hope that you can give me more cause I am here to learn so please write back. Im 19 years old and i weigh 190 pounds and I am 6'3". I have been working out for about 8 seriuos months but have been working out for about 4 years now and decided to start my first cycle. I play water polo and swim for a J.C. I feel that if I eat like a fucking horse and work out hard and also get my sleep I can maybe get my weight up to at least 250 I hope but who knows I guess I will have to find out. Here it is Test Dbol Deca Clomid week 1 800mg1xweek 1cc3xday - - week 2 800mg1xweek 1cc3xday - - week 3 600mg1xweek 1cc3xday - - week 4 600mg1xweek 3/4cc3xday- - week 5 600mg1xweek 1/2cc3xday 200mg1x week 6 600mg1xweek 1/2cc3xday 400mg1x week 7 - - 400mg1x - week 8 - - 400mg1x week 9 - - 400mg1x - week 10 - - 400mg1x - week 11 - - 200mg1x - week 12 - - 100mg1x 2xd week 13 - - - 1xd week 14 - - - 1xd
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spoonman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted April 08, 2000 01:37 AM
sorry bro, but I can't wait to see the flames on this one. 60 lbs!! 8 months!! Bro read some old posts, especially the one 2Thick just did on "No test for newbies." With that said, WELCOME TO THE BEST BOARD ON THE FUKIN NET. You will learn a great deal here and I would postpone that cycle because after you talk to these knowledgeable guys I think you may be modifying it quite a bit, if you do it at all after only 8 months training. You really need more time. I waited 11 years, although that's extreme. I wish I did it them about 5 years ago. Welcome. IP: Logged |
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Quadzilla43 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 85) |
posted April 08, 2000 01:46 AM
christ, wait till everyone sees this tomorrow morning. flame time. live and learn. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 208) |
posted April 08, 2000 01:54 AM
Fuck it- I'm gonna do a cycle then knock Ronnie Coleman out of 1st. IP: Logged |
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EXTREMEPOWER Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 08, 2000 02:26 AM
DAM 60lbs. I GUESS THATS WHERE YOU NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH..I WANNA JOIN THE PRO-CIRCUIT AND WIN THE OLYMPIA THEN WITH THAT STACK..GOOD LUCK AND WATCH THE FLAMES...YOUR GONNA GET 'EM IP: Logged |
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young1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted April 08, 2000 02:39 AM
You do need to make some modifications to that stack. Infact, you don't even need to be 'stacking' first time around. I started after 6 years of training and think you should try primo or winny out. If you're stacking no matter what then go with a winny/d-bol stack. It's great and almost everything you gain is quality. By the way, welcome to the board and don't worry almost everyone has been flamed at one time or another. Good to have you abord Young1 IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 323) |
posted April 08, 2000 03:47 AM
I'll spare you a flame; I figure you'll get plenty from others. Here's some good advice: Train drug free for at least two more years. Train hard, get sensible amounts of rest, and eat properly. Find someone older and wiser and ask if he'll let you train with him for a while and show you the ropes. Research AS during this time so when you do go on you'll do it at the right time and make gains that you wouldn't be able to make as a natural. Train to your natural limits; don't try to get your genetics from a bottle. BTW, if you ignore this advice and decide to go on, the cycle listed above is not the way to go. IP: Logged |
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deltman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 214) |
posted April 08, 2000 08:24 AM
Almost certainly you will be told to wait young man, at your age you're still chock full of natural test. I've lifted hardcore for two years now, and it took that long for me to finally plateau. And at forty.....LOL.......I'm ready for my first cycle! But 60 pounds.......WOW.........ya really think so???????? NOT!!!!!! deltman IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted April 08, 2000 09:09 AM
Welcome to the board! Now stay off the fucking juice until your own natural test slows down. Lift hard for a couple of years. Patience is a bitch ain't it. IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2137) |
posted April 08, 2000 10:44 AM
I don't know what you guy's are talking about, the only stupid thing about that cycle is his complete over use of deca, there is entirely too much deca in that cycle. You'll have fun wiht you new breasts but the test is fine! IP: Logged |
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Greg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted April 09, 2000 04:34 AM
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 323) |
posted April 09, 2000 05:21 AM
Greg, I'm responding to your revised post. The table goes off in spots but I think I understand it. Why not add the Deca @ 400 mg to the test and D-bol and make it a more traditional 8-wk cycle? The cycle you posted is quite long, and I'm not that fond of "staggering" onto Deca by itself. If you want to do a stagger, Primo @ 400 mg is probably a better way to go. I don't think you'll get 60 lbs off one cycle, but you'll definitely add some quality muscle. My personal opinion still is that you should take it a bit further as a natural, but you seem pretty serious about starting now. Make sure you have all your gear and accessories before you start. IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 252) |
posted April 09, 2000 05:49 AM
shorten it up definitely. get some nolvadex....for sure. where did the clomid go for a while? 400? every day??? are you getting ready for a porn movie? its not an unreasonable cycle, the request for 60lbs may be a bit high. my suggestion is to train natural for a few years...i know, you want to grow fast but if you do everything right and learn your body, you will. 8 months of seriously training isnt even near a plateau. i was only 10lbs heavier by then, 30 lbs later and ok..maybe ill start learning about AS. learn what works for your body and exploit it to the fullest, then proceed along a simpler beginner stack. thats my 2 pennies worth. but at 8 months, you have so much to learn. enjoy the process. peace ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Juicer56 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 64) |
posted April 09, 2000 05:20 PM
ok you guys you obviously didnt understand him he wants 60lbs years down the road maybe a good 15-20 out of this cycle, his max dose of deca is 400mg 1x/week which most thought was /day, the resoning behind the deca use at the end is to solidify his gains,test as the solid base and dbol because its rapid action in the body, he has quick access to nolvadex and every other accessory he will need, remember everyone has there personal experiences but compare this cycle to your first and see what a difference there is, the person that helped him design this cycle(not naming names)  obviously had good success this way and passed it as a recomendaion...now that i think about it, he should move the deca in two weeks to have it in his system when he comes of test/dbol...sorry the dnp doesn't let my brain fuction as it normally does..  [This message has been edited by Juicer56 (edited April 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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