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Dexter
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 108)
posted April 07, 2000 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Bro's.

For the newbies, and for anyone else's interest, I thought I'd summarize my first cycle, since I just passed the mid-point (celebrating with an injection).

I'm 42 years old, 5 ` 8". When I started the cycle I weighed 75 kgs. (175 lbs.). No bodyfat measurement lately, but I'd guess it's around 13 percent.

Here's the cycle. Maybe it seems odd to some, but after researching I decided it wouldn't hurt to start and finish with Primo. I started with Primo tabs (the new 25
mg. tabs from Schering in Germany). After reading this board for awhile, I decided "what the hell" "don't fuck
around with tiny dosages on Cycle Number One" and started with 1000 mg. of Sust and 400 mg. of Deca (didn't want to tempt progesterone gyno, so I've kept Deca at 400 mg.). Also, I've planned to use Clen/ECA (with lots of cardio)afterwards, and I've been taking Clomid EOD and will follow the end-of-cycle Clomid regime recommended by E2
and others.

THE CYCLE

Week******Primo Tabs****Sust****Deca****D-Bol****Primo Depot
1**********50mg./day
2*********100mg./day
3*********100mg./day***1000mg.**400mg.
4*********100mg./day***1000mg.**400mg.**50mg./day
5*********100mg./day***1000mg.**400mg.**40mg./day
6*********100mg./day***1000mg.**400mg.**40mg./day
7*********************1000mg.**400mg.**40mg./day****500mg.
8*********************1000mg.**400mg.**30mg./day****400mg.
9*********************1000mg.**400mg.**20mg./day****400mg.
10********************1000mg.**400mg.***************400mg.
11********************1000mg**400mg.****************400mg.
12**************************************************400mg.
13**************************************************300mg.
14**************************************************200mg.

VARIOUS REMARKS

Weight. As of the end of Week 7 I've gained 11 kgs.(approx. 25 lbs.). At first I didn't see where the weight was going. Now I can. It's great! I don't feel any bloating, and my belt notch hasn't changed.

Training. Since Week 3 I've been working out like a fanatic, lifting heavy but trying not to do anything careless. So far, so good. The pumps are fantastic;never felt anything like it before! And my lifts have
SIGNIFICANTLY improved. I won't bore you with the details. I'm not, and never will be, in a lifting competition. I wanna look good and feel good about how I look.

Feeding. Eating has always been hard for me, for some reason. I just don't like packing the chow. Nevertheless, I've been hammering down 6 - 7 meals a day and trying to keep my protein intake to 300 - 400
grams/day. It's a damned conscious effort, however.

Sleep. The biggest side effect I've seen. I haven't had even a HINT of a pimple, no gyno concerns (my nipples have been sensitive, and the Clomid seems to be keeping
things in check), my hair is as thick as ever...but I can't fucking sleep! It's not that I feel jittery or anything like that, it's more like I just don't want to sleep.

Girlfriend Part I. Bless her. At first she was really negative on the idea of gear. Then she came around. She got the Clomid for me. It's weird. I have access to every roid I want, practically right from the manufacturer, including legitimate Parabolan by the pallet, but Clomid was a problem. I had Nolvadex and Proviron, but Girlfriend scored the Clomid. She's great.

Girlfriend Part II. Whew! Today she sent me an email saying she got the diazepam Valium). She's a resourceful lady, one of the reasons I like her (besides having an affinity for married women). I can now
envision sleep in the future.

Nextdoor Neighbor. After Week 5 it became a Discovery Channel scenario. The Cycle Fairy decided to descend and cast a spell on Lena, my pretty nextdoor divorcee-neighbor, who then sent her 5-year-old to Grandma for a
month! There we were, beside to the trash shute in the stairwell, and it was one of those "Enchanted Evening" kinda things. So, I get serviced practically everyday by her, with the comfort of knowing that in two weeks she'll once again (hopefully) be Respectable Mom. Kinky, too. I love it. I'm horny all the time. Hmmm, Lena knows I
have a girlfriend. Maybe it's time for a bit of three-way intimacy. I dunno. My dick already has a raw patch on it. It hurts often. Anybody know of any remedies for this, uh, ailment?

Injections. Shots have always frightened me; I've never handled them very well, either. But after reading the board and people's experiences, and checking out 2Thick's site, I became a jabber. No real problems, either,except for one time when I felt like I had sat on a beartrap the day after an injection (during the injection, it
didn't hurt). The first Primo injection stung like hell,too. I can't recall reading about this, the fact that Primo stings! Anyway, now I mix it with Sust and Deca
and it doesn't hurt.

Bioreactor. For two weeks I'd been taking
Methandrostenelone manufactured by Bioreactor, here in Moscow. I ditched it after feeling pains in my insides. Switched to the Akrikhin 5 mg. tablets; much, much
better. I'm still intent on having the Bioreactor shit tested. So far, I've gotten a "certificate" from a supposedly independent lab, stating the content and
purity of Bioreactor Methandrostenelone. It's worth about the paper it's printed on in my opinion. I wouldn't recommend Bioreactor Methandrostenelone ("Russian D-bol") as a safe buy, based on my experience.
I think it's underdosed and possibly impure.

NEXT STEPS

I've thought about adding Parabolan or Winny to the cycle, to finish it off. Any experienced Bro's have any thoughts on this? Any other comments, observations, or
suggestions are also welcome.

Thanks for all the help.

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rocky
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 133)
posted April 07, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocky   Click Here to Email rocky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 69333996
HAHAHA !!
That's a good entertaining update !!

I don't have anything to add .. shit man, two women and 25lbs., you're doing great.

I'll take a pallet of Parabolan though

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E2
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(Total posts: 2087)
posted April 07, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Sounds really good and i like you cycle a lot, when i first saw it that's what popped in my head, add some fina/para to the end

Go for the para at about week 11 at 152 mg.week, that will do you really well. Hit that for 4 weeks then taper off it.

You're going to look great!

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bigtbone
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 72)
posted April 07, 2000 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigtbone   Click Here to Email bigtbone     Edit/Delete Message
Damn bro, I've done quite a few cycles and I'm still not doing that much. I don't understand why some of you guys recommend such high dosages for a beginning cycle. I mean, there ARE side effects from steroids and its all about the risk-benefit ratio. From what I've seen, beginners who take up to 500 mg of sost only, will gain just as much muscle as a beginner who takes dbol, deca, sost, etc at much higher doses. So the latter are increasing their risk greatly with no added benefit. No flame bro, I don't know, maybe I'm just lucky and grow well from low dosages. But good luck and congrats on your gains. Also I would like to know how it turns out so keep us informed.

--bigtbone

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Dexter
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 108)
posted April 08, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your comments.

E2: That cinches it. I'm going to pick up the Parabolan this weekend!

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Ice Man
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 23)
posted April 08, 2000 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing to add just JEALOUS!

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