posted April 07, 2000 10:53 AM            

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O.k I've written this before and people think I either got fake stuff or did'nt do enough. Conan69 told me to try sust at a 1000/week but, I'm not sure if it'll make a difference. Allright, this is what I've done in the past( and I'm pretty sure on it being the real thing ) Started of with propionate and went up to 600/week till my nips started getting sensetive and broke out on traps and neck. Tried testex at 500/week with decca and started seeing results and pump after 4 weeks but, accredit that to decca(had to abruptly end cycle) O.k then I tried stacking sust and cyp together for a total of 700/week ( cyp from doc )(sust "cyctahoh" double packaged) So there we are. Now, I've done some research and found that 1 in whatever does'nt respond to test so then how come I gained hair on my chest,balls shrank, sensitive nips and could feel a pump. I'm gonna send this in to the X-files writers!!
Never gained a pound. Thanx bro's, this shits a mystery to me. Atleast I'll keep making small gains on other stuff.
Your Iron Bro
Young1

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posted April 07, 2000 10:59 AM            

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Well, you can't just rely on AS to see gains. You speak nothing of your diet or how you train. AS is only a supplementation of your training. Your training consists of your workouts and your diet. It's like a balance, you could be eating perfect, but if you don't know what you are doing in the gym you won't see results. And vice versa, you could be working out perfect, but eating like shit, and still not see the results you want. Some people insist that they "know what they are doing", but if you are not gaining a pound on that much AS, then there is something wrong that you are doing one way or another. I can take a half cc of test (100mg) a week and blow up off of it. I am not saying you don't know what you are doing, but just bring the subject up becuase it "could" be part of the problem.

What do you eat? What is your protein intake? Your muscles aren't going to grow if you dont' feed them. How much sleep do you get? Do you use any other drugs? How do you train in the gym?

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posted April 07, 2000 11:04 AM            

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You're the guy who's going to SEAL training right??

Anyway my bet is that you're simply not eating enough and/or not working out enough/properly or possibly working out too much.

I'd like to see the research that says "1 in whatever' doesn't respond to test. Just curious...

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posted April 07, 2000 11:13 AM            

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SEAL training, huh?

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posted April 07, 2000 11:13 AM            

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Good point, bro. I just figured people would know from my last posts. Anyway, My training is very intense and train sometimes in the morning, nap in afternoon and another session at night. I rest quite a bit taking a day of every few days. I don't usually train twice a day but, when I don't my sessions are very intense. Now, my diet is high calorie - eat everything (almost) all day. I probably average 6 meals not including shakes, 8 on good days. Now, I've gained nicely on things like winny and d-bol just never test. I train harder and smarter than most of my bro's while they're gettin all baloony of test and stacking on 20lbs I've stayed under the 230lbs mark and moving slowly. I'm sure I'll be 240 by the end of summer but, can't understand this shit.
Thanx for helping Villan

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posted April 07, 2000 11:17 AM            

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You got me mixed up bro, no seal here. I don't think they'd accept me with my record Heh,he,he thanks for helping bro's. Oh, and that info about 1 in whatever came from my doc. I'm happy to hear everyone's response to this.
Young1

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posted April 07, 2000 11:30 AM            

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Young1,

There is one other thing I want to address to you that could be part of the problem. How long have you been doing your work out? Do you do the same routine all the time? Your body reaches plateaus at certain points of growth and training. You could be stack at one of these plateaus. You have to "shock" your body to make your muscles grow when you reach these plateaus. Change your workout around and do different exercises. Hit certain muscles at certain angles. Change high rep, low rep exercises to high weight, low regp exercises and vice versa. Change things around all the time, never do the same thing as your body will be come accustomed to it and you'll come to a plateau and become frusterated. Just remember to keep your training intense and keep your protein high and eat "clean". Once you break through that plateau, your level of growth AND strength will skyrocket, guaranteed.

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posted April 07, 2000 11:40 AM            

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oops, you could be "stuck" at one of those plateaus and not "stack"....sorry

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posted April 07, 2000 11:43 AM            

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I considered your point but, then realized that I can't be at a plateau if I'm making gains while not on test. I'm not really stuck on a certain weight I'm packing on slowly but, when on test the gains are'nt any quicker. When focused I probable average 3lbs a month naturally and I've tried test at different points in my life to no avail. I have'nt touched test since over a year now. You think it might be that I have high test levels to begin with and I need crazy amounts to instigate growth. Like I mentioned before, 700/week was the most. Maybe Conan69 is right and I need atleast 1000/week to jump start my shit. Thanx bro.

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posted April 07, 2000 11:51 AM            

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Shit I don't know then man, you're the first I've heard that doesn't get anything off of at least 200 mg a week, but you said you were doing 600 week? I'd say it's either fake or you are not human. I'd definitely give X-files a call. BTW, when you look at yourself in the mirror, do you have large black eyes and a slit for a mouth? Just curious.......

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posted April 07, 2000 12:27 PM            

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I'm positive I'm human I just hear these strange voices sometimes telling me "young1 come home" weird!!!

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posted April 07, 2000 01:28 PM            

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Anyone else. somebody's gotta know some medical precedent(spelling)to this. If not thanx anyway bro's. I'll just go see my doctor when I get back to Vancover.
Young1

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posted April 07, 2000 01:35 PM            

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For me i dont respond that well to low doses. For test you can take a shit load of it and it isnt that harsh on your body like Aboms, Trenbolone (kidneys), and i have never seen someone that wont grow off of high amount of test. you live in Souther Cali right well get a shit load of T200 or sust redijects.

i will make you a deal.
you eat 6000-8000 cal. per day and take 1000 to 1400mg of T200 for 6 to 8 weeks with clean receptor if you dont gain weight then i will pay for your cycle.

its that simple if you have legit test you WILL grow

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posted April 07, 2000 01:39 PM            

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assuming the test you tried was legit, then I would say that conan69's theory makes the most sense.

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posted April 07, 2000 01:49 PM            

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I've already got my may 1st cyc all together:fina, d-bol, eq, decca and primo. It's gonna be about a 9 week thing. Should I go ahead and do the 1400ml/week shortly after or wait a while. I'm not gonna throw it in 'cause I don't have $450 to throw away incase it fails and I'd brake out to bad from all that oil. Plus, I'd like to attribute all gains to one sole thing. Thanx brothas.
young1

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