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Power
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 57)
posted April 07, 2000 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Power   Click Here to Email Power     Edit/Delete Message
Well guys, I've spent one full year researching AS and I'm pretty up to date. I decided on a sus/deca stack and purchased! Well, Now I'm 3 weeks in to my cycle and My PARENTS are giving me shit!!! I've only gained 5-7 pounds, but it shows and all the food I eat isn't covering it up! I'm 21, but still live at home to go to school! My dad is ignorant and just "says no!" and my mom is a nurse, so she gets all the flack from the muscle-fearing, pussy-thin doctors that guys like us beat up in grade school! I'm mid-cycle and have no idea what to do! I need you guys to help me make a descision. Quit- face being thrown out of my house, or stay on! I've tried to talk rationally about the prospect of AS use, but still deny I'm on! There it is, brothers. Please help me....

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jettstream
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jettstream   Click Here to Email jettstream     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 17940709
tell your mom you go out and have unprotected sex until you get HIV just to get a test script from the doctor unless they lighten up and see that you are knowledgeable enough to be safe with AS

MOM caught me with all my shit....i told them i'd take a "drug test" eheheh which i new i'd pass anyhow...."they're not mine" i cried (no tears...more like screaming) i was scared shitless
but we never talked about it....again

next time what your parents DON'T KNOW wont HURT THEM....you should know that by now

from a fellow 21 year older...
PEACE and god speed

jeTT!~

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Komo
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 28)
posted April 07, 2000 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Komo     Edit/Delete Message
Power!
I`m soon gonna be in your situation since I`m starting my first cycle in a week, and this summer I`m gonna live at my parent`s place.
I`m sure they are going to notice it, my dad thinks I`ve done it before. My plan however is:
1) I won`t use Test, only deca and Winstrol.
2) I won`t be walking around without t-shirt.

I would suggest for you to keep a low profile and maybe cut the test down/out.
Depending on what kind of effect all of this could possibly have on your relationship with your parents, you might want to consider aborting the cycle, and staying off for as long as you live with your parents. I know it will be hard just stopping, but I would put the relationship with my parents first.

Hope everything works out!

/Komo

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Power
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 57)
posted April 07, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Power   Click Here to Email Power     Edit/Delete Message
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45Plates
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 166)
posted April 07, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 45Plates   Click Here to Email 45Plates     Edit/Delete Message
Bro try and collect all the research you can supporting the argument that AS are safe, print it out and have the rents read it. If they still have questions answer them intelligently to try and settle there minds. Just a thought bro, Good luck!

Plates

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Platinum
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message
Have your parents actually seen the AS? I would go out and buy a couple different supps, Creatine, some protein powder, etc. And just tell them that you are supplementing your diet and training with a new program. If they have seen them then just tell them that you are an adult, it is your body and you are trying to perfect it. Tell them you are not smoking marijuana, injecting heroin or snorting cocaine, that you are actually trying to better yourself.

Platinum

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kd
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 68)
posted April 07, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kd   Click Here to Email kd     Edit/Delete Message
Goto these websites:

steriodlaw.com and nejm.org

At steriodlaw goto the health issues section
and print out what you need and hand it to
your parents. If this dosen't help, then say
okay, but I'm going to take alot of shakes, food, supplements, andro etc and tell them you'll still get big anyway. Then just go a little lighter on the gear, go for 20 lb gain instead of like 30.

And when you start out say you weight 10 lbs more than you do, and then when your done your cycle say you weigh 10 lbs less then you
actually do, thats how you can sneek in an extra 20 lbs.

good luck

kd

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Power
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 57)
posted April 07, 2000 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Power   Click Here to Email Power     Edit/Delete Message
These are all great ideas, bros! I thank you from the bottom of my heart and really do appreciate all your advice! I've decided to finish my cycle and just stay low key about it. I'll double my calorie intake and make sure they know. Then, i'll approach them with all the information I can to settle their minds. Thanks again, friends- it really is a brotherhood...

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Pubert
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pubert   Click Here to Email Pubert     Edit/Delete Message
I like the supplementing idea, but I'd go out and spend a little money on cheap andro and just tell your parents its the andro that's doing it. Its legal and over the counter...

If they still don't believe you, there is an article on this site about someone making huge gains on andro, just print that out and tell them that was your motivation.

Pubert

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2Thick
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
No matter what you say to your parents, they will not understand.

You have two choices:

1) Stop the cycle now, (which I would only recommend if you have a real fear of being thrown out of the house).

2) Be very, very low key with the injections and tell your parents that you have quit using.

I would definitely up your calorie intake and use tons of protein shakes and creatine (in plain sight of your parents).

Jon

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ghans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghans   Click Here to Email ghans     Edit/Delete Message
Unless they have seen your gear, I would say "this creatine and protien shakes are really packin it on!" Be low key and good luck!

ghans

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instynct999
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for instynct999     Edit/Delete Message
Good Luck, bro...I agree with 2Thick... roids would be a real hard sell even if it seems you know what you're doing...ya gotta be discreet.....my best!

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SamauriMike
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 07, 2000 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SamauriMike   Click Here to Email SamauriMike     Edit/Delete Message
Don't tell them you're on roids, that'll give them the edge. Tell them it's probably the andro and creatine you're taking. You're a bodybuilder - that's what you do: grow, through proper nutrition and exercise.

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komododragon
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 08, 2000 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for komododragon   Click Here to Email komododragon     Edit/Delete Message
OK Power, this isn't what you wanna hear.

You aren't mature enough to decide on your own whether you should use roids. You are still living at home and sucking on your parent's tit, and instead of deciding the issue yourself you come on to the board and look for others to tell you what you should do. As long as you depend on your parents, and others to make your decisions for you, then follow the rules of their house.

The first time I told my dad that I wanted to buy a motor cycle he said, over my dead body will you buy a motorcycle while you are living in my house. End of story, but as soon as I quit living off my parents, I went out and bought a motor cycle. My dad is totally cool with it. But he was right, as long as I was still dependent on the folks, I had the duty to comply with the rules he set out, even if I disagreed with them.
To myself I had a duty also, to achieve independence from my parents, which you have not done.

Once you make the desicions in life that will lead you to independence from your parents, then and only then will you be mature enough to make your own decsions that are at odds with what your parents think.

I'm sorry, but I think this whole idea of deceiving your parents, while enjoying their money and roof, is degenerate.

[This message has been edited by komododragon (edited April 08, 2000).]

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