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spoonman
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 43)
posted April 06, 2000 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message

I am giving this "advice" because I am a juice newbie and this helped me out bigtime.

Also I have alot of experience at being a newbie at different things and this works across the board. So here it goes.

1) Decide what your goals are (mass, cuts,
etc)

2) Gather all the info you can about the
products and training that will achieve
that goal for you.

3) Then ask questions if there is something
specific you still need to know.

4) Then EXPERIMENT with what you found in
step 2. Remember only your body can
tell you what works best for you.


This last one is the MOST IMPORTANT. Because as knowledgeable as the mods and vets are on this board, no one knows for sure what's the best cutting cycle for jonny juice except jonny juice's body.

The mods are there simply as our spiritual guides to keep us from straying too far from the path.

But only through experimentation can jonny learn what his body responds to most effectively. But note this is not just a blind stab in the dark. If you have done proper research in steps 1 - 3, this should be an informed and well educated guess.

This is the process I used in my cycle as well as everything else I was a newbie in. I gathered info and finally at one point, I just said fuck it. No one can help me anymore because now only my body can answer what is the best.

Just think --- what you are really posting is "what is the best cutting cycle FOR ME." How can someone other than your own internal chemist properly answer that?

Now if this cycle don't work, you try a different one using the other stuff from step 2. Then when you ask a mod or vet now they know more of the situation and can better evaluate. Plus you met them halfway and did the important leg work.

Perfect example -- I posted recently about already having deca dick after just 2 days. A few bros said "impossible it takes weeks to kick in." However I know my body. I walk around with perma-wood. Now it's nothing but a dangler.

So on saturday my dick was as hard as chinese language class and on wednesday it is as soft as a wet chow mein noodle. Also no full erection, plus I have already developed a small deca gut. Classic deca sides.

And this in 3 days! What's the answer? Shit, I dunno. Spoon's body must be very prone to deca side effects very early.

(BTW, if any mods or vets have other theories let me know. For some reason the few posts that I do never get a big return on answers)

Just look at the threads and you can see this - this bb gets gyno by breathing too heavy, but this other bb takes 5000 mgs test every 20 minutes, 1200 sus every 8 minutes, and 250 dbol tabs a day and and damn if he ain't got the best pecs this side of Oliva.

BB # 2 wouldn't get gyno if you put a bag of wet sand in his pecs. That' tells us newbies to be aware of the sides, take the precautions and if we see titties other than on our women, then next cycle, guess what?

That brings me to another point. Perhaps newbie cycles should be as short as possible until we discover what works and what doesn't. My first is only 6 weeks to test the waters. I know this is a debatable since first cycles see better results and some AS need longer, but I see the pros outweighing the cons because for a newbie this is unchartered territory. Just a thought.

So experiment you mad little chemists and have some fun. I'm having a "bol" doing it. I can't wait till next cycle to try the other alternatives from step 2. And to think I slept through chem class.

Anyway, as that fukin hat wearing bear with the lit match says "ONLY YOU..... KNOW WHAT JUICE WILL WORK, ONLY YOU."

Then he shot some sus and shit in the woods.

BTW, sorry bout the title Macro, don't mean to steal your thunder, but it's gotta be flashy to get the traffic.


later
spoon

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E2
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posted April 06, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
good advice

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lil'tex
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 10)
posted April 06, 2000 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil'tex   Click Here to Email lil'tex     Edit/Delete Message
great advice. the info on the board is great, however, you never know what it will do to YOU, until you try it.

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airtyme
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 301)
posted April 06, 2000 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for airtyme   Click Here to Email airtyme     Edit/Delete Message
bump, we need to keep this one fresh at top!

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rocky
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocky   Click Here to Email rocky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 69333996
BUMP THIS -- SOLID POST

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coyote977
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 55)
posted April 06, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
Bump,

This good friend of mine told me this "the worst question is the one that you don't ask"

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Arminius
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arminius     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 885022
BUMP.


Arminius.

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lil'tex
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil'tex   Click Here to Email lil'tex     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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LEGEND
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEGEND     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP THAT

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Roy Batty
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
This is solid advice and actually coherent.

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Roy Batty
"I've done...questionable things"


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D-Town
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D-Town   Click Here to Email D-Town     Edit/Delete Message
I'll be damed the guy makes since!!!
Excellent advice spoonman!!!!!
bump it up!!!

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demaroid
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for demaroid     Edit/Delete Message
bump!!!!

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Painkiller
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
bump!!!!!!!!
[This message has been edited by Painkiller (edited April 06, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Painkiller (edited April 06, 2000).]

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1AbBIG
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 138)
posted April 06, 2000 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1AbBIG   Click Here to Email 1AbBIG     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43346757
Great post!!!
I give it a BUMP!

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ghans
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 45)
posted April 06, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghans   Click Here to Email ghans     Edit/Delete Message
Great post Spoonman! Back up top.

ghans

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OMEGALOS
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMEGALOS   Click Here to Email OMEGALOS     Edit/Delete Message
Well-written, informative advice...I'll give it a thumbs up!

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Concieve, believe, achieve! Kaz

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RAGING BULL
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 06, 2000 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAGING BULL   Click Here to Email RAGING BULL     Edit/Delete Message
SPOONMAN, I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF. I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE MY STUDENTS TO ASK QUESTIONS--WELL THOUGHT OUT ONES, NOT JUST A BUNCH OF WORDS PUT TOGETHER THAT MAKE LITTLE SENSE AND CANNOT BE ANSWERED.

STUPID QUESTIONS-----------------BAD
SMART QUESTIONS------------------GOOD

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

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