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BigDallas Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted April 05, 2000 05:13 PM
Alright, lets talk about the negative shit. Please share your experiences. What are the side effects you have gotten, and from which drugs? What about injection, any troubles? How about keeping gains? What about long term, serious side effects like cancer. What have you found to be the best overall juice? IP: Logged |
Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted April 05, 2000 05:21 PM
Not asking for much, are you? Okay, I'll bite on the first question. Sust has made me unusually, I mean really, lethargic the day following injection. Other people claim more serious flu-like symptoms. IP: Logged |
foadman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted April 05, 2000 05:31 PM
Ditto to the flu like symptoms, I'm dealing with it right now. I havn't been sick in about a year and 2 months, I do an injection of sust and the next day I have a sore throat, and feel feverish. I did party pretty hard over the weekend (prior to the start of my cycle) with some stuff I normally don't touch(11550), so that could also be the problem. IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 145) |
posted April 05, 2000 06:02 PM
IM ON WK 4 OF WINNY-V E/C/A CUTTING STACK AND IT MESSED WITH MY INSULIN/BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS TO THE POINT WHERE I THINK I SHOULD TRASH THIS CYCLE ANY INPUT E MAIL ME! ------------------ IP: Logged |
BIG RICK ROCK Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted April 05, 2000 06:05 PM
hey matty just forget your cycle and send me all your winny, it's not worth the risk! IP: Logged |
foadman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted April 05, 2000 07:00 PM
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jojo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 05, 2000 07:17 PM
I have a problem with T2. It gives me muscle cramps REAL bad.
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Vlad67 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted April 05, 2000 07:22 PM
.. spend some time reading the archives.. i think we have covered just about everything...there is alot of good info.. some of it is conflicting because everybody reacts differently... except for sust hurting like a bitch, we all seem to agreeon that... just read alot and come to your own conclusion..... IP: Logged |
christian918 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 201) |
posted April 05, 2000 08:01 PM
For me: Sust: no sides, not even painful injections. T-200: no sides Ref B: no sides Deca: limp dick clen: slight shakes, hot and sweaty most of the time anavar: no sides As far as cancer goes, 1 in 3 people get cancer and I highly doubt that 1 in 3 people are steriod users. Cancer can be caused by just about anything that is used in extreme excess, without common sense. Hell, 10,000 cases of bladder and rectal cancer a year are attributed to drinking tap water. So, as long as one uses their head, plans good cycles, and gives their body some rest when it needs it, you have no more to fear of cancer from using gear, as from injesting too much sweet & low. -Christian IP: Logged |
BigCatratcho Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted April 05, 2000 08:07 PM
Deca = 1. water balloon face 2. high blood pressure 3. rapid pulse Test = 1. some water Equi = !. really really hungry D-bol tabs = ------------------ IP: Logged |
Painkiller Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted April 05, 2000 08:35 PM
test-> some acne(very little) Some water great muscles primo->no sides, but keeping the muscles(but thats not a side) clen-> A little elevation in BP eca-> bp went up(not much) IP: Logged |
BiffBoom Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72) |
posted April 05, 2000 09:35 PM
My worst experience was when I used A-bombs..when I first started a cycle..it caused my nuts to go into overdrive trying to produce enough natural hormones...they were pulsating really hard and it killed big time. Thank god it stopped after a week. IP: Logged |
TEXASLFTR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted April 05, 2000 11:32 PM
I am not sure whether or not it is the Primoteston or the T3,(likely the T3) but I have had the most fucking agonizing tight traps ( like high-stress feeling ). IT SUCKS!!! also, constant horniness, and short temper. IP: Logged |
niko1015 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted April 05, 2000 11:43 PM
Nothing serious yet... Test200- very mild acne and mild water retention,and a short temper Laurabolin- nothing Clen- shakey hands IP: Logged |
DRRman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted April 06, 2000 12:39 AM
A-bombs, i started taking them, and three days later, i was in a girls house, trying to get a little, and i began feeling sick as shit, severe flu like symptoms!! I had to leave, and puked at least 6 times that night!! and felt like shit for the next 2 days, but after that, just got big. Im now on dbol\deca\sus and the only side effects i have noticed are huge fuckin muscles, strength gains, and the best feeling pump i've ever felt in the gym! IP: Logged |
WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 530) |
posted April 06, 2000 12:49 AM
Well..since Im required to read and reply I guess I better..or else huh? Well..Im new to the game, and Ive been running sus and dbol. Flu symptoms day of first injection only. Injections dont hurt. Ass is sore a day or so after. I drink a ton of water a day..so only mild retention and puffiness. Slight ball shrinkage..heh...heh..I still think thats funny.. Small pimple here and there. Now come the serious sides Ive been having. ------------------ IP: Logged |
DellBear Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted April 06, 2000 09:01 AM
Sust - slight water retention, good mass gains. Dbol - quick strength gains, a little puffiness. Deca - good gains, no sides...yet. IP: Logged |
RoNiN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 105) |
posted April 06, 2000 11:32 AM
>What are the side effects low testosterone , shrinkage , stress on the > and from which? D bol > What about injection, any troubles? No but it is sore as hell. > How about keeping gains? What about long ?>term, serious side effects like cancer. >What have you found to be the best overall >juice Keeping them is tough but it's possible if The best so far is Sus but that could change . IP: Logged |
2legit2quit Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 31) |
posted April 06, 2000 11:55 AM
Read spoonman's post entitled "Best possible newbie advice". I just did and it's pretty good advice...everyone is different. IP: Logged |
Villan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted April 06, 2000 12:15 PM
Test: mild acne Deca: Good strenth gains Equipoise: Slow muscle growth, but kept all of it Laurabolin: Similar to Eauipoise Winstrol-V: Improved Vascularity Sten: Same as Test IP: Logged |
Villan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted April 06, 2000 12:25 PM
damn, I can't spell for shit. IP: Logged |
bouncer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted April 06, 2000 02:15 PM
Clen. Shakes, headache and severe cramps this time. (Check out my post today) E.C.A. Insominia, shakes, hard to keep an D.BALL. Thirsty all the time. DECA. Yum Yum, Can't be bothered with sex, Muscletech products. Makes me feel like as ass hole for buying that shite, servere depression, personality complex, embaressment, I believed all the Musclemag/Greg KOvacs crap. All the best guys.. bouncer ------------------ IP: Logged |
Deepsquat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 456) |
posted April 06, 2000 03:04 PM
hey villin, when I punched out a side window to get to the other side,i only cut the back of my hand slightly,I still have the scar, but all it cost me was $ 400.00 in court costs and lawyer fees.Of course there was the time, while working as a bouncer I streched the ligaments ina guys neck,and he filed charges against me , but the district attorny refused to take it to court.On cycle both times,seperated by 10 tenyears of going clean,but I could still get pissed off if neccassary. ------------------ IP: Logged |
bouncer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted April 06, 2000 04:05 PM
Hey Deepsquat, funny you should say you were a bouncer. When I'm juicing the guy's on the door don't generally know untill one of two things happen's. 1. Either they notice my sudden weight gain. 2. Or, when I get really short fused and explode easily. All the best. Bouncer ------------------ IP: Logged |
ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 186) |
posted April 06, 2000 04:50 PM
Well have not done any AS yet but have done a crap load O' DNP and ECA and cytomel so here goez (since I have to) ECA- makez me aggresive(anyone else?) can't pay Close attn to anything. DNP--ooo yehhh My Mistress of heat. Funniest
I have lost A lot Of fat and plan to looze A LOT more (w/ Big Macro'z help) [This message has been edited by ozzymandius (edited April 06, 2000).] IP: Logged |
100acrewoods Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted April 06, 2000 05:13 PM
It is hard to say what each individual did to me, cause I stacked a lot of stuff, but here goes: Drive - 1cc/wk between cycles. Excellent muscle retention, no water. Put on additional 2 lbs. Parabolan - 1/wk - slight increase in stregnth, got really moody. Anadrol - tremendous stregnth, but hardly no water or size increase. Did this by itself. Deca (both Organon and Norandren) - couldn't really tell that it did anything for me, some size I guess. Test 200 - water wt, good stregnth. Sus 250 - gyno. Still have it. Winny - leaned out, stronger, but joints hurt like hell. halotestin (5mg tabs) - got harder and stronger. primobolan - good size increase, but developed acne on back. D-bol (ref-b and pink tabs) - best for size and some stregnth. Got puffy though. Equipoise - very little in size and stregnth, but got leaner and looked bigger but scale weight didn't change much. gH - tremendous pumps, but not as dramatic size increase as people would have you believe. T3 - lost too much muscle. Clen - ok if used in-between cycles, sucks as cutting drug. pescription yohimbine - shakes. helped with sex drive. And that is all I can remember for now. IP: Logged |
Villan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted April 06, 2000 05:37 PM
Deepsquat, I was charged with assualt on the passenger and the driver of the car. What set me off was that I had my girlfriend in the car and we were going out to eat and we happened to be on Noland Road here in Independence. Anyway, Noland Road is #3 in places to cruise in the country so a lot of people go there and show off their cars so a lot of assholes are out there too. Well, we were on our way to Red Lobster when I was stopped at a stoplight. A Black Z28 pulled up beside me on my right and started making obscene jestures to my girlfriend and flipping me off after he seen I was getting pissed about it. I mean, come on, when a couple of guys are putting a piece sign to their mouth and wiggling their tongue and your girlfriend and then further insults you by flipping you off and daring you to do something, you'd be mad too. Of course, the gear didn't help either. So they in FuddRuckers and I'm already out of the car as the driver opens his door, but I already had put my right hand through the passenger side of his windshield and my left immediately after through the side window hitting the passenger and knocking him clean out and went ape shit on him for a second or two while he was laying there and then I went after the driver who was coming around the vehicle after I punched through his side window at his partner, but he turned and tried to run into FuddRuckers and I tackled him down and straight took I don't know how many elbows to his face, but I also punched the ground more than anything because I was so furious and so apeshit. The funny thing is, he didn't even put his car in park and it rolled down and slightly bumped this other parked car. I didn't feel anything until I was arrested and taken to the hospital. Anyway, it cost me about 10,000 dollars overall for all the ambulance and medical costs for both of them as well as the damage to their car. They got a good lawyer and took it to me. But the mothefucker that tried to run into fuddruckers was yelling for his life saying I'm sorry, I'm sorry and pissed and shit his pants both. You could smell it. I guarantee you that they never do that again. As for myself, my hands and forearms were covered in my own blood and I didn't feel a thing like I said until I was treated. Oh man, do I remember that. I have never been so angry. Oh well, I learned from it, sometimes we make mistakes. (Next time I'll learn to follow them where it's secluded and beat the living shit out of them where nobody will know and make them beg for their life.)
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TEXASAMM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted April 06, 2000 07:57 PM
well crap i guess i have to post i have been using AS since 17 i am now 30 side effects? my nuts are small and they are always upalmost inside u know what i mean!! but thats OK small potatoes make the steak look bigger or something like that seriously though the worst side effects were (are) to much insulin and to many times a day i just love the stuff best pumps full full full lean lean lean muscles did i mention full and lean muscles??? almost always catch the flu when starting THE TESTS at least u know u got the real deal IP: Logged |
OKIE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 143) |
posted April 06, 2000 08:26 PM
I'm on a Sust/Deca cycle and the only side effects I have had is some bloating. I took Clen before, and it made me cramp up so bad I couldn't stand it. Occasionly I sweat in my sleep. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Slim Whitman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 58) |
posted April 06, 2000 09:02 PM
Yeah villian, your my type of guy...sorry about the cash and lawsuit and everything, but some people deserve that shit!!! I've always busted my own windows out and then call the cops and tell them someone broke into my car and was trying to steal my stereo. Oh shit, probably shouldn't have said that...oh well. Sus...a little soreness for a couple days and a cock thats as hard as a rock. Dbol...the pills give me a little acne, the reforvit nothing but a little water retention, but we all know how to handle that. Huge gains when I put the Sus and Reforvit together, very minimal by themselves. Equipose...no sides and very little gains by itself, ok when stacked with the above, but hard to tell. Deca...High BP, limp dick, felt like my face was constantly sunburned. A-bomb...Huge immediate gains, flushed face, but have trouble collecting my thoughts. My brain was racing constantly and increased aggression. Depressed post cycle when you watch your gains disappear faster than you gained them. Winny...CRAMPS!!!!! Bigtime...like I'm using creatine. No significant value for me. Test...about the same as the Sus but more testicular shrinkage, don't know why though. Slim IP: Logged |
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