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Author Topic:   clen/cytomel/dnp help please
SSMAN
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 05, 2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
Hello everyone....I'm happy to be back after a year away from the board!! I have a question on dropping bodyfat. I am 6', 255 lbs, 16% body fat. I would appreciate any input on the following:

week 1: 80mcg clen (2 days on, 2 days off), 50mcg cytomel (daily), ripped fuel (for days off clen)
week 2: 120mcg clen (2 days on, 2 days off), 75mcg cytomel (daily), ripped fuel (for days off clen)
week 3: 500mg DNP/day
week 4: 160mcg clen (2 days on, 2 days off), 125mcg cytomel (daily), ripped fuel (for days off clen)
week 5: 600mg DNP/day
week 6: 120 mcg clen (2 days on, 2 days off), 75mcg cytomel (daily), ripped fuel (for days off clen)

Summer is just around the corner and I need to lose that stay puff marshmallow man look!!!

Also, is DNP available in Mexico? If so, what is the average price?

Thanks for help.......it's good to be back with the brotherhood =)

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SSMAN
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 05, 2000 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
bump.........for myself......how sad is that? =(

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Puc
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 05, 2000 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
Looking at this makes me weep for your thyroid...

But, I'm not an expert so I'll BUMP you hard and wait for a GURU...

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SSMAN
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 05, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the bump Puc.....and the encouraging words...hehehe!!! Don't weep for my thyroid....misery loves company, and now my liver will finally have a mate!! =)

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BigCatratcho
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posted April 05, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
NOT a guru, but:

Cytomel, without AS is conducive to some muscle loss. I've heard and seen this. Not sure if clen is going to keep this from happening.

ALSO, regarding thyroid levels, DNP will shoot your thyroid levels down by the end of each week. That on top of an artificially induced T-3, may lower your natural thyroid for too long.

six weeks may be enough suppression to fuck shit up.

the honduran

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SSMAN
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 05, 2000 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
Any suggestions on how to make life easier on the thyroid? Possibly a break between the Cytomel and DNP? If so, how long? Is there a better way to cycle these compounds?

I am doing my part by staying low-carb and doing 45 - 60 minutes of cardio 5 days per week. Thanks again for all the help!!!

SSMAN

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ozzymandius
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posted April 05, 2000 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzymandius   Click Here to Email ozzymandius     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you not doing DNP on your clen,cyto dayz. man if your going to slow the thyroid might as well do it all at once

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SSMAN
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posted April 06, 2000 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP!!! still fishing for more input......anyone?? please =)

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 06, 2000 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
OZZYMANDIUS
DNP and T-3 do not mix

SSMAN
2,4 ditrophenol is widely available
it is used as a wood dye and insecticide
be sure to mention one or the other when
ordering from a chemical supply house.
t-3 should be used with gear
DNP does not actually suppress your thyroid in the same way taking t-3 does-it affects it more the way that dieting does by inhibiting conversion of t-3/t-4, once you go off DNP your thyroid will rebound really quickly.


SSMAN
problems with your fat loss cycle
not long enough time between use of DNP
taking a week off is like not really going off- two weeks is the absolute minimum break between DNP cycles- preferably longer.

t-3 and clen can be stacked together but you have to take some type of gear to help with thyroid suppresion and to minimize muscle catabolism.

8 weeks of a non aromatic or test with arimidex
week1+2 of 10 -clen and t-3
week3 -dnp
week4 -eca
week5+6 -clen and t-3
week 7 dnp
week 8+9 eca- still have gear in system
week 9+10 clen only+ clomid

BTW- clen should be taken every day not two on two off

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MP

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 06, 2000 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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MP

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SSMAN
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posted April 06, 2000 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
MACRO....thanks for the detailed reply!!! The more I learn, the more questions I have. I am currently on week 1, day 6. I have been taking 80mcg clen and 50mcg T-3 daily. Tomorrow I plan to step up to 120mcg clen and 75mcg T-3 daily (week 2). The only gear that I have at my disposal is Ref B (and I can't make a gear run for another week). Is this acceptable to use for maintaining muscle mass while on T-3? If so, what doseage? Thanks again for the help!!

SSMAN

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100mph
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posted April 06, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100mph   Click Here to Email 100mph     Edit/Delete Message
how does the dnp mess with your thyroid, what does this mean??

--HARDWORK_100MPH

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100mph
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posted April 07, 2000 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100mph   Click Here to Email 100mph     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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SSMAN
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posted April 07, 2000 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
Still looking for some input on the Ref b.....will it suffice to maintain the muscle mass when on T-3 if used in small doseage? Maybe 1/2 ml twice a day? Or should I wait for my next gear run in a week?

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