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MOUSE
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 04, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOUSE   Click Here to Email MOUSE     Edit/Delete Message
Question for all of you - a guy at the local gym I workout at suggested that I go on primo or winstral to get leaner. I have never been on anything - currently I am on the ECA stack. I am wanting to get leaner but not sure about the using steroids as an alternative. What do you think ?

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DYLAN
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posted April 04, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
How old are you? How is your diet? I would use clenbuterol for two weeks on, two weeks of, and cycle the ECA on your off weeks....
D.

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MOUSE
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 04, 2000 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOUSE   Click Here to Email MOUSE     Edit/Delete Message
I am 29 - and my diet is alright. I eat a lot of chicken and fruit. Although, I have a downfall of eating candy every now and then ! I don't drink alcohol at all, so I am not sure why it is so hard for me to get any leaner. I am currently 5'5 and about 120 lbs. I try and stay away from carbohydrates and have more protein.
Any ideas ?

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DYLAN
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posted April 04, 2000 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
then try to get your hands on some clen and cycle it with an ECA stack like I said. Keep a clean diet, stay low on the carbs.....and lots of cardio.
D.

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MOUSE
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posted April 04, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOUSE   Click Here to Email MOUSE     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, so now you have to tell me what this clen is ?? I heard it is veternary stuff ? Is this true ? Is it hard on the female system - I don't want to grow whiskers or have my voice lowered...

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DYLAN
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posted April 04, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
Here's some info i cut-and-pasted for you:


Clenbuterol works effectively as a fat burner. It does this by slight increases in the body temperature. With each degree that the temperature in your body is raised from the use of clenbuterol, you will burn up approximately an extra 5% of maintenance calories. This makes it effective as a fat burner. Your body will fight this by cutting down on the amount of active thyroid in the body as well as through beta-receptor down regulation, which explains why you only have a limited effective period to take clenbuterol. Clenbuterol has been reported as having a half life of about 2 days, but that is not actually correct, since it has biphasic elimination, with the half-life of the rapid phase being about 10 hours, and the slower phase being several days. Supposedly, this is one of the reasons the FDA never approved clenbuterol as an anti-asthmatic drug...the FDA frowns on drugs with long half-lives if drugs with more normal half-lives are available. So with a 2-on/2-off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol out of your system for this theory to be reasonable. In actuality, it probably hasn't even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before you are taking the drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization. A more reasonable approach would be either one week on, one week off, or alternately, two weeks on two weeks off. The two week cycle has the disadvantage of a "crash" period afterwards. This crash period can be helped with the use of ephedrine to lessen the lethargy that you will experience.

If you are interested in taking clenbuterol for anything other than fat loss then you might as well stay away from this compound. There is a lot of talk as to how clenbuterol compares to ephedrine as well. Most "experts" feel that clen gives a better bang for the buck than the ECA stack. It should be noted that clenbuterol�s results and effects are much shorter lived. They work through very similar mechanisms. Both products stimulate the beta-receptors but clenbuterol seems to be a more refined version, called a second generation beta-agonist drug, than ephedrine. Clenbuterol targets the proper receptors, being the beta-2 and 3 receptors than ephedrine more specifically which should in theory make clenbuterol more effective of a fat burner. Again, most of the so called "experts" say that clenbuterol is more effective than ephedrine.

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MOUSE
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posted April 04, 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOUSE   Click Here to Email MOUSE     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much for all the info ! I just may try this..

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DYLAN
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posted April 04, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
No problem....keep us posted with results if you do try it.
D.

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instynct999
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posted April 04, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for instynct999     Edit/Delete Message
Primo at 100mg/week can be very effective for a women in regards to preserving lean tissue while dieting...Primo at this dosage should have absolutely no ill effects

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LisaLove
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posted April 05, 2000 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LisaLove   Click Here to Email LisaLove     Edit/Delete Message
There is some good info already posted on this topic on the womens discussion board.

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RAGING BULL
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posted April 05, 2000 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAGING BULL   Click Here to Email RAGING BULL     Edit/Delete Message
To Mouse and 999,
Just to let the both of you know, my girlfriend did a primobolan only cycle (100mg/week for 10 weeks)and unfortunately now suffers from a constantly crackling voice, like a 12 year old boy. She also had some enlargement of her clitoris. I am positive it was legit stuff--so always be careful, be very careful. We thought we were! Good luck.

RAGING BULL

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 05, 2000 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

you should use 5 mg anavar a day or 50 mg deca a week if you are going to use as. either one shouldn't give too bad side effects.

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Texas Guns
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posted April 05, 2000 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Texas Guns   Click Here to Email Texas Guns     Edit/Delete Message
Definitely bump up your cardio and cut back the carbs. The clen has no ill effects besides making you a little shakey, but as you know the eca stack already does that. No nervous feelings with Clen though. I am currently doing 45 - 60 minutes of cardio first thing in the a.m. and 20 - 30 minutes post workout with weights which I changed to high reps lower weights and it is honestly kicking my butt!!!!! My body is used to higher weights and it is shocking it to say the least. Diet is key here no matter what supplements you take. I am looking into taking Anavar, but it is hard to obtain. Stick with what you have and maybe add a Clen/t3 cycle in there and see if you can tell a difference.

Mrs. Guns

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RoNiN
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posted April 05, 2000 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoNiN     Edit/Delete Message
All the women I know that used primo have deeper voices from it and it is permenant.

Just make sure that you know the consequences for using that stuff and you are willing to live with it.

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