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 suggest good first stack please
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biggun Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 04, 2000 08:18 PM
  
i'm going to use deca/winny/primo/clomid but need to know the best way to do it. it's my first cycle and I REALLY don't want ANY conversion to estrogen that's why I picked these. I'm not looking for huge gains but 15lbs over 10 weeks or so. I was thinking deca weeks 1-8 (200-400mg) winny weeks 1-5 (200-300mg) primo weeks 6-10 (200mg)and i have so much clomid sitting around i might just use it 50mg eod throughout to stop natural test reduction and then a week or two after ed. any suggestions. IP: Logged |
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BiffBoom Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 62) |
posted April 04, 2000 09:04 PM
Try substituting the Primo with Sus 250..and use your Winny near the end of your cycle. As for aromatization/bloating..it's just something that you'll have to accept. Use Clomid..especially at the end...and keep an eye on your nips IP: Logged |
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biggun Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 04, 2000 09:20 PM
i would use the sus but it aromatizes too much IP: Logged |
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biggun Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 05, 2000 02:39 AM
bump IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 471) |
posted April 05, 2000 03:45 AM
Straight up man, use the sus, and use alot. Save the winny for the end or for a cutting cycle. Use eq throughout if you got it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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RoNiN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 99) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:20 PM
If you use that stack without sus you can expect 15lbs , and you should be able to keep almost all of it after the cycle. I think that is a good safe stack. Adding Sus will bring bigger and faster results but there is a risk for higher estrogen levels. IP: Logged |
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joker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:42 PM
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2006) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:45 PM
You will have some nice problems with progesterone, tell us what doses you were thinking of, if you're going over 300mg deca i'd put some test in or schedule yourself and appointment with a urologist so you can get some viagra or caverject.  IP: Logged |
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biggun Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 05, 2000 04:21 PM
what kind of problems does progesterone cause? for the deca i was thinking 200mg weeks 1-3, 400mg weeks 4-5 and 200mg weeks 6-8. I was adding the winny to block some of the progesterone, i don't know that works for a fact but i've read it in a lot of different reliable places. IP: Logged |
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