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 what's best?? dnp,clen,ect.???
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 04, 2000 02:12 AM
  
I'm at about 9% bodyfat right now. Height 6'3" Weight 210lbs. I want to drop my bodyfat, and just wondered what everyone thinks is the best. I have been taking hydroxycut for the past month and I am not seeing the loss as much as i want. I lift and do cardi, Lift-one body part a day Cardio-six days a week. What would be the best to use, Clen., d.n.p., T3??? Will not be stacking with another AS. I would like to keep my muscle mass, but just drop body fat level. I also wondered the sides of these diff. types. I believe my diet is pretty much in check, Protein-200g a day, Carbs-150 to 200g a day, Fat- 40-70g a day. If this is not good please inform me THANKS, --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted April 04, 2000 10:08 AM
8 days of dnp should drop your bodyfat to 6%. IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 04, 2000 01:17 PM
After i stop the dnp, will the bodyfat stay low???? THANKS --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted April 04, 2000 02:45 PM
If your current eating habits don't contain unused calories, after you come off of the DNP you will not gain the weight back. Puc IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 01:36 AM
PUC, So your saying that after I come off the dnp, my diet should not have any unused calories in it??? If it does I will eventually gain the weight back??? THANKS --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted April 05, 2000 01:42 AM
BUMP Let's see more posts on this one ------------------ IP: Logged |
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studcj Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 480) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:22 PM
Go with the dnp for two weeks and see what kind of results you get. But if you do not want to go through the fairly harsh sides then go with clen. While you are off, take some ECA to keep the b/f low. Maintain the same diet also. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:30 PM
will the fat come back even if I keep a good diet??? THANKS IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 12:43 PM
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 291) |
posted April 05, 2000 01:57 PM
No, your weight will not come back as long as you watch your diet and keep your carbs/cals at a maintance level for your BMR. It's not water loss, it's real fat loss. You would have to over eat to gain it back. IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 03:17 PM
cjac1, THANKS for the info!!! --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 03:20 PM
will clen work just as good as dnp? Would be taking one week on one week off w/ an eca stack on the weeks off --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted April 05, 2000 04:23 PM
DNP will be most effective for FAT loss. ECA may result in a larger weight loss because of its diuretic effects. DNP will be most effective for FAT loss. If you eating habits aren't poor (eating more than your body is using) you will NOT gain the fat back. If you EAT LIKE A PIG you will gain the FAT back. If you use ECA, you may have erectile difficulty (see other thread, few days back). Also, after you stop the ECA you will gain some weight back as your body rehydrates. You will lose some weight/FAT while on ECA, because of its thermogenic/stimulant/appetite suppressant properties. If you want to look ripped for a short time, ECA works best. If you want more PERMANENT results, use DNP. I can't comment on clen because I haven't done a cycle of it -- YET. Puc ------------------ IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 05, 2000 08:29 PM
THANKS,puc!!! IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 06, 2000 03:50 PM
can anyone tell me how to take the cle and dnp??? --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 154) |
posted April 06, 2000 04:54 PM
what is the deffinition of dnp anyway? whats it made up of and what does it do to you when your on it? ex. is it like caffine? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted April 06, 2000 04:57 PM
use the search engine. DNP... There is TONS of INFO (macros been pimping DNP for a while, he's the guru, read his comments carefully) Puc IP: Logged |
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biggmack Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 76) |
posted April 06, 2000 06:10 PM
week1- 500mgDNP-a-day Week2- 400mgDNP-a-day~~ECA stack (perf. dose) Week3- 200mgDNP-a-day~~ECA stack (doubled) Week4- ECA stack(same-as-wk3)~~Diurex (SHED THAT WATER)!!!!! Drink shitloads of water, and take plenty of Vitamin C as an anti-oxidant! By the way Diurex is over the counter at any drug store. Women use it for water bloat. And also, if you can't control that crave for carbs, take dexatrim, the shit works wonders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [This message has been edited by biggmack (edited April 06, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Tiny Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 06, 2000 09:54 PM
What is ECA stack? IP: Logged |
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Tiny Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 06, 2000 09:58 PM
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 06, 2000 10:27 PM
TINY, ECA stack is a fat burner that stands for ephedra,caffiene, and asprin. (hydroxycut,metacuts, ripped fuel ect.) They are sold at all health stores. --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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johnny1111 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted April 06, 2000 10:29 PM
ECA Is ephedrine, caffeine & aspirin stacked together to burn fat via its thermogenic action. IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 06, 2000 10:37 PM
biggmack, Why do you have to take the eca stack when taking dnp, wont the dnp alone shed the fat. Why the diurex?? Will the dnp make you hold water or something?? --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 109) |
posted April 06, 2000 10:50 PM
Biggmack, Where the hell did you get that DNP schedule from? Have you ever tried using DNP for 2 weeks or more? Let me tell you it will dehydrate the hell out of you. You may have used it with some success but I wouldn't recommend anyone use that much for that long. I have found great DNP effectiveness downgrade using it for more than 6 or 7 days or for more than 2 or 3 one week cycles with less than 2 weeks off time in between cycles. I think that at about 2.5 weeks you would be wasting your DNP and health. Maybe even at week 1.5 at 500mg. First timers should definately stick to 4mg/lb for 5-7 days until they determine their tolerance. giantset IP: Logged |
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ROOK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 81) |
posted April 07, 2000 12:37 AM
DNP can get metabolism up at least 50% which is conservative as some say 75%. I want to stress not to just go balls out (5mg/kg) and you should move up gradually on DNP for your first experience. The basics first. DNP is a classified as a chemical poison. It�s mode of action is to disrupt the ETC (electron transport chain) and cause uninhibited exchange of protons. This exchange of protons is what is responsible for making ADP into ATP. NOTHING can stop the disruption of this process once it starts. DNP works no matter what! High or low T3 has nothing to do with whether or not DNP affects the mitochondria and burns off extra energy. DNP gets into the cell and into the mitochondria and causes proton release. No other hormones are needed or noted. Most sane people only stay on DNP for 7 or 8 days. Then they stay off for at least one full week, but two or more is better for you. Just keep researching and you will find what you need. If not, you can e-mail me. ------------------ ROOK IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 07, 2000 12:57 AM
ROOK, Whats you e-mail address, I didn't see it anywhere?? --HARDWORK-100MPH IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 07, 2000 12:54 PM
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biggmack Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 76) |
posted April 07, 2000 05:56 PM
Yeah I sure the hell have used DNP before! I use it for at least a month at a time! I am insulted that you even asked that question! I was the one who brought most of this DNP hype to the board! I brought the source to the board! Maybe I can email you some info., and you'll see what I am talking about! I have researched DNP for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sorry but that is like asking Dorian Yates if he has ever tried testosterone before! IP: Logged |
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100mph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted April 08, 2000 01:06 AM
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