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  Need a Chemist to answer or an experienced Vet.

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
I may need to put my AS in a different container.
It will be glass and sterile, But my question is will AS loose its potency. Will there be any measures I need to take when storing it out of its original container. I will most likely put 16 Sust. in one bottle. I am not sure why most AS are packaged in only one dose, and if there is a reason for this.

Please let me know what my options are

Thanks Guy;s

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THESAINT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
ARE THE SUST. REDI-JECTS? IF SO JUST
SHOOT THEM INTO AN EMPTY 10cc VIAL OR
TWO.

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Primo57
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
I use to put my sus250 in a multiple use
vile, just because it was easier to store -
I wish some company would take the initiative
and do it for us. Anyway, what I would do
is squirt some bacteriostatic water into the
bottle and draw it back out just to make sure
the vial was mostly sterile; the viles
came pre-packaged anyway. Before I injected
the sus, I thoroughly cleaned the stopper
with medical wipe containing ethyl alcohol.
Make sure you do this in one motion because
if not your simply reapplying new pathogens.
That's about as sanitary as you can get at
home.
Primo

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the answers guy's.
But I will not be able to store it in a Vial of any kind. It will be stored in something that does not relate to any kind of drug, so when I go to inject a dose I will have to take the cap off every time I use it. This will allow air in the bottle once a week.

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 03, 2000 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 03, 2000 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
just get a rubber stopper that fits the opening of your container- I would think you could find this at a chemical supply house or on the net
Peace
btw- get a metal cap that you can crimp to hold the stopper in place

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 03, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a lot Macro
You Just Saved My Gear!

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SynWiz
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posted April 03, 2000 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SynWiz   Click Here to Email SynWiz     Edit/Delete Message
You could store your gear in a sterile container such as an isopropyl alcohol, of even sterile contact lens solution bottle. Both of these are considered sterile until they are opened. Therefore if you pour out the contents, and replace it quickly you should have no problems. As for any chemical reactions, I can think of nothing that would cause the test. to change to estrogen or anything else. Air shouldn't be a problem, and the residual alcohol should be no problem. As an offer to anyone else, I do hold a degree in chemistry and do this for a living, so I would be glad to help all that I can.

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 03, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks SynWiz

My Major concern is the AS loosing its effectiveness.

Can anyone confirm that it will not lose potencie?

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komododragon
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posted April 03, 2000 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for komododragon   Click Here to Email komododragon     Edit/Delete Message
My major concern would not be worrying about the actual steroid changing form or losing potency. But I would worry to some extent about the oil base oxidizing and becoming rancid. Vegatable oils do oxidize when exposed to air and become rancid.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted April 03, 2000 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
only an insignificant amount- the oils they use are the most stable peanut, cottenseed etc. transferring it to a different container by pouring should not present any problems- however you are still going to need a rubber stopper and a crimping band- for the new vial, bottle or whatever you pour it into.

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THESAINT
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posted April 03, 2000 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
IN WHAT TIME FRAME KOMODODRAGON? YOU
OPEN COOKING OILS LIKE OLIVE OIL OR
PEANUT OIL AND LEAVE THEM IN THE
CUPBOARD FOR A YEAR AND THEY'RE STILL
GOOD.

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onlythestrong
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posted April 03, 2000 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onlythestrong   Click Here to Email onlythestrong     Edit/Delete Message
I thought the sus was packaged in 1ml amps to make sure that the 4 esters held together in their proper arrangement. Wouldn't mixing 10 amps together cause the compound to mix the esters and not keep the same proportions per ever cc?

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Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 03, 2000 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for transparent   Click Here to Email transparent     Edit/Delete Message
Can anyone verify what Strong as said?
If so should I find Primoteston? I am looking to not waist my gear?


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ectomorph
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posted April 03, 2000 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
i seriously doubt thats why. that would mean they make each amp in its own tiny little batch. when the machiene squits the oil in the amps it just measures the volume, not the
%of each ester.

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SynWiz
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posted April 04, 2000 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SynWiz   Click Here to Email SynWiz     Edit/Delete Message
Trans: I am sure that as long as you wipe put he containers the oil will not become rancid. As for pouring all of the amps into one bottle, as someone has already said the theses are made in large batches so the amounts are going to vary from amp to amp, you should have no problems pouring all of the oil into one container.

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