posted April 02, 2000 12:47 PM            

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This is my first post, so first I'd like to introduce myself and say hello to you all.
My quick Bio is Im 28, never used gear yet, but Im strongly considering it. I tried all the over the counter Andro's and they all suck, dont waste the money. I work out at least 4 days a week, and I get a little stronger month to month, but have no size or wieght gains and it is getting very frustrating. With all of the info I have read here, Anadrol seems to my best bet. Here is my question: I have read gains with Anadrol dont last very long, and I wanted to know how long after a 5 to 6 week cycle would you keep noticible gains? Also, is it absolutely necesary to use a product like novaldex when using anadrol? If I do in fact start a cycle, I will be posting weekly photos of my gains through my cycle, along with my diet.

Thanks and I look forward to sharing my gains with all of you!

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posted April 02, 2000 12:54 PM            

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How much do you weigh???are you sucking down enough calories?? As for my personal experience with A-50..I kept a lot of my gains..what little I did lose was mostly water bloat. It all depends on the person and how they affect your natural levels. I gained/kept about 15lbs of lean body mass..but I ate like a horse..and tried to lift the entire rack.

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posted April 02, 2000 01:02 PM            

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Sorry, I should have told you all my height/weight. Im 5'9 155#s. If I could get to 165-170 I'd be happier than Rosey O'donnel at Baskin Robins.

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posted April 02, 2000 01:42 PM            

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I kept just about all my gains also.I think it's a good product,although I would not use more than one a day and you should stack it with 1CC of deca or some good test weekly.Eat big and train big year round

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posted April 02, 2000 01:54 PM            

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I think anadrol is a bit harsh for a first time user, get some test and do an 8 week cycle of 500-1000mg/week, you'll get to your desired weight.

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posted April 02, 2000 01:56 PM            

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It's true, it's all about personnal experience. I personnaly did'nt see anything of the big A's and a few bud's only see strength gains and nothing else. So try for yourself. The big A's are a pretty toxic drug and obvioulsly hard on your liver and since it's your first cycle I think you should go with something else ie: test or maybe even a d-bol winny stack which was my first and went really well. I started seeing good results in week # 7. I kept all of my gains. Good luck
Young 1

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posted April 02, 2000 01:57 PM            

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If you're a steroid virgin, I wouldn't pop your cherry with a-bombs.

Do what E2 says, and get some test.

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posted April 02, 2000 02:57 PM            

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Hey E2,

First, thanks for advice, it is really appreciated. Now unfortunately I must show my newbie ignorance and ask is "test" a particular AS (i.e. brand specific) or just one flavor represented by many brands? I'd prefer an oral for my first time.

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posted April 02, 2000 04:43 PM            

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Virgin, if you don't know what "test" is, I would spend several weeks educating myself about the various compounds and such before even considering a cycle. There is too much info out nowadays, why take risks? No flames, but you really need to learn about diet, exercise intensity and all the other factors involved in getting big. If drugs were all you needed, every moron w/ a connection would look like Ronie Coleman!

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posted April 02, 2000 05:20 PM            

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Alright bro i'm gonna have to agree with E2 on this one A-50's are to harsh for a first cycle save them for later. Look into a Sust/Deca/Dbol stack seems to be the most popular. Always remember the Nolvadex and Clomid, they are musts as far as i'm concerned. Good Luck bro Get big

Plates

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posted April 02, 2000 06:00 PM            

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I Agree A-50 is a little harsh for you first cycle. I just started an A-50 and d-bol stack. Im in my third week, all my lifts are up at least 10 pounds and Ive gained almost five lbs. If I were you I would go with a sustanon & deca stack, for your first cycle, I think you will get the kind of results your lookin for. Finish it with about 15 days of colmid, to help you keep your gains. About 2cc's of each per week, eat like a beast, and hurt your self in the gym. good luck.

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posted April 02, 2000 06:44 PM            

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TEST is TESTOSTERONE
Like testosterone enathe
testo cypionate
sustanon 250 is the best beacause it is 4 tests stacked and they work well togheter

And to you RAGING bull i have to say %!"# you

He just asked , and what the hell does some simple letters have to do with Roids ??
Be a little more friendlier and SPARE YOUR POST THAT SPACE YOU TOOK U JUST COULD WRITE WHAT IT IS IN STEAD OF YADA YADA YADA

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posted April 02, 2000 07:42 PM            

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dianabol will make a good cycle. combined with a weaker drug like anavar, primo or winstrol as well as clomid the whole way through should stabalize your gains somewhat.

since you only weigh 155 and it is your first cycle i think you will keep pretty much anything you gain.

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posted April 02, 2000 10:09 PM            

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Everyone, thanks for the input! Its really nice to see a group of people looking after one another. As a group, AS users usually get a bad wrap. I already feel some what welcome as a newbie. I have been reading the board *all* day long and it looks like Winny/Dbol seems to be a reasonable first (oral) stack. I already have it in mind that I'm going to do it. I'm even trying to build it in my budget to get suckered a few times by scammers. If it happens to savy people like some of you, I know I'll get the shaft once or twice. If thats the price I have to pay to walk into my gym and "look" like Im working as hard as I am, then more power to me for having the guts to kick my genes in the ass and say FUCK YOU I'm going to get bigger!

Keep it real

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posted April 03, 2000 02:13 AM         

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Isn't it a bad idea to stack D-bol with A-bombs? Also... shouldn't you be gaining A HELLUVA LOT more than 5 pounds in three weeks if you're taking D-bol and A50 together? What doses are you taking?

chemdaddy

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posted April 03, 2000 03:56 PM            

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HEY VIRGIN-- I THOUGHT I WAS CLEAR I MEANT NO FLAME-- SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU.
AS FOR YOU WHATTHEHELL, I GAVE VIRGIN HONEST, STRAIGHT UP ADVICE-- IF THAT GETS YOU SO UPSET THAT YOU NEED TO TELL ME TO GO FUCK MYSELF, THEN MAYBE YOU AND YOUR CANDY ASS SHOULD TAKE A FUCKIN' POTTERY CLASS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET BIG-- GROW UP AND LEARN HOW TO TYPE FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!

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posted April 03, 2000 08:42 PM            

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Whatthehell, i don't know why you got pissed at RagingBull, he gave some good advice, before turning to steroids i think one should learn everythign they possibly can about training and nurtition, only then once you've reached your genetic potential does it makes sense to take juice.

If you're taking juice and you don't know enough about nutrition and training then you're just wasting you money.

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posted April 03, 2000 09:01 PM            

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whatthehell, sust isn't four different tests
it's test in different esters. you can read about it on elite's homepage just scroll
down a little bit.

tri

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posted April 04, 2000 01:09 AM            

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Thank you people, now I feel better.

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