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Quadzilla
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla   Click Here to Email Quadzilla     Edit/Delete Message
I am getting ready to do my first cycle and was wondering what to expect from it. I know that genetics and work ethic as well as a miriad of other factors have a lot to do with the end result, but I am just looking for a ballpark figure.
Sus/Deca/Clomid
750 400 eod
750 400 eod
500 400 eod
500 400 eod
500 400 eod
500 400 eod
500 200 eod
250 0 eod
0 0 100mg/day
0 0 50mg/day
So what do you think? This is my first cycle. I am 22, 6'6", and 209lbs. I hope to see some serious gains on this cycle. I may even add some d-bol before I order. Any and all input is welcome.

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When it starts to hurt, add more weight and do it again.

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Joseph_stalin
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

20 lbs. of muscle.

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Mudworx
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mudworx   Click Here to Email Mudworx     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP!

My 2nd course was similar to yours except a little lighter on the Sust. I gained +- 16 pounds lean mass. For my money Deca & Sust. are the 2 best injectables!!!

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Quadzilla
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 02, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla   Click Here to Email Quadzilla     Edit/Delete Message
16 to 20 pounds would be awesome, assuming I could keep it. What would happen if I added the D-bol? Say 3-4 tabs/day? I will have to research dosages on that a little more before deciding. I would like to keep my gains, but more importantly, I would like to keep my liver. I am afraid of orals, but I am willing to use one in my cycle if I can get the dosage to a safe level.

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vexed
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posted April 02, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vexed   Click Here to Email vexed     Edit/Delete Message
That looks really good. I am starting the same cycle in about a month and did plenty of double and triple checks. I would only change week 7 to 250sus even thought it is self tapering. But I guess if you already have the sus then do it anyway.

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young1
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posted April 02, 2000 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for young1   Click Here to Email young1     Edit/Delete Message
For sure you're gonna see large gains but, Since it's your first cycle you'll get good gains with the bare minimum aswell. I personally think and this is my opinion that you should start with low dosages 'cause you're gonna be setting a standard. 750mg a week - I don't even do yet and I'm still seeing good results. I'm just barely older than you: 23 -5'10 - 225lbs. It's your choice though bro, you're gonna see excellent gains regardless. Good luck!
Young1

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E2
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posted April 02, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Try this out for your cycle


sust****deca***dbol*****Winny
750*****400****6.day
750*****400****6.day
500*****400****5.day
500*****400****5.day
500*****400****5/day
500*****400*************450
500*****300*************450
250*****200*************450
************************450*****clen
clomid 100mg.day********300*****clen
clomid 100mg.day********300*****clen
clomid 50mg.day*********150******eca
clomid 50mg.day******************eca

as well clomid eod during whole cycle, the deca shot once a week the sust shot every 3 days, and the dbol take EVERY 4 HOURS including nightime. The clen take tabs until you shake like a mofo then back off 1/2 tab. stop the clen when you body tempereature goes back to normal, then start eca.

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