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matty
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posted March 30, 2000 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
i dont know it seems ever since i started this , (my 1st AS cycle) i have blurry vision. Almost like a constant film over my eyes, ive been using visine to help.
does this have ANYTHING to do with the winstrol-v ive been taking????????? is this a common side effect of AS??? if so what is there to do about it???


and if not i guess i just need glasses!

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big_dan
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posted March 30, 2000 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_dan   Click Here to Email big_dan     Edit/Delete Message
Are you taking clomid? I think I read (anobolix) that clomid may cause blurred vision. Check it out in the W.A.R.

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D-Town
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posted March 30, 2000 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D-Town   Click Here to Email D-Town     Edit/Delete Message
Would water retention cause this?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 31, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
this is a common side effect of clomid-take your dose before bed so that peak levels occur while sleeping

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bignuts76
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posted March 31, 2000 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignuts76   Click Here to Email bignuts76     Edit/Delete Message
i had the same thing happen to me when i was on insulin if i did not take my sugar, but not on a/s

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matty
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posted March 31, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
im not on clomid, only xenadrine, winsrol-v300mg per week, and milk thistle 4tabs per day...

is there a direct connection from the liver to the eyes ? i think there is, sort of like when you look at an alcholic and see the wites of there eyes are all yellow, thats a sign of liver problem or something???
anyway im worried because my eyes seem blurred with this glassy secretion or something!!! its driving me crazy!!! any info would help...

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macrophage69alpha
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posted March 31, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
that yellow around the eyes is JAUNDICE- a sign of extreme liver dysfunction- stop taking the Winstrol obviously you liver cannot handle it. For some people winstrol is extremely toxic to the liver-they are part of a group of people who probably produce less of the enzymes that are able to finally breakdown WINSTROL- or their enzymes system produces more damaging metabolites than the general population-My recommendation stop the WINSTROL. and stick to injectable non 17aa gear next time
PEACE

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matty
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posted March 31, 2000 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
my eyes arent yellow!! just glassy and alitte blurry sometimes during the day!

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deltman
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posted April 01, 2000 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deltman   Click Here to Email deltman     Edit/Delete Message
You mentioned you were also taking xenadrine.........that stuff can get you cranking. Something to think about??????

deltman

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 01, 2000 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i'm almost certain that blurry vision is a result of the winstrol affecting yoru bodies glucose and insulin levels. as that other guy said he got blurry vision on insulin. so that is probably what is causing it.

have you been losing alot of weight? sometimes anabolic steroids fuck up your bodies glucose metabolism, and you have to rely on bodyfat for energy. if you are losing weight and you have blurry vision it is almost certain that it is due to carbohydrate metabolism.

i think that your body is becoming hypersensetive to insulin due to the aas.

i would get off the winstrol if i were you. but that is my opinion. what you have could lead to jaundice and gall stones. i don't know how good or bad the odds of taht happening are but i wouldn't risk it over $100 in drugs.

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 01, 2000 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message
yeah im pretty sure it is due to hypersensitivity to insulin. that guy bignuts76 says he got the same effects when he didn't take his sugars.

perhaps you should try increasing carb and sugar intake. i don't know what kind of carbs you should take to equalize the insulin though.

yup. try eating alot more carbs (the kind that deactivate insulin, i don't know if they are simple sugars, complex, or what). perhaps that will stop it. if not i would quit myself.

more or less what is happening is this. your body is too sensetive to insulin. Normally your body would deactivate 40% of the active insulin in your body but the winstrol is preventing your liver from deactivating the excess insulin, causing the blurry vision.
i don't know how it happens but that is most likely it.

if increasing carbs doesn't help, i might give up the winstrol. i think that only 17aa steroids cause this problem. so perhaps you should trade your winstrol for deca.

[This message has been edited by Joseph_stalin (edited April 01, 2000).]

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matty
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posted April 01, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
it only happened 2wice so far and only a few days ago, in my 3rd week on the winny!
is this really dangerous? cause im just starting to see the results from the winny, and would rather not quit!
and how is deca gonna help me with a cutting cycle?

thanks for the imput though it was the best answer i got so far! very informative!

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 02, 2000 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

deca would help because only drugs that are both injectible and oral cause the insulin spike. deca is injectible only and wouldn't mess up insulin levels.

i guess i would just have alot of sugars on hand in case you got that vision problem again. if you get blurry vision just eat alot of sugars. that should take care of it.

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