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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted March 30, 2000 06:33 PM I have noticed we have a lot more new guys on the board recently [seems like today even]. Although I highly recommend researching this stuff on your own instead of relying on somebody else to just make up a cycle for you.. I hope this will cut down on the number of posts asking for a review of a stupid cycle or simply asking what should I do for my first cycle. In my opinion, first cycle should be test, dbol, and deca if you feel like it. Here it is: wk---Test---D-bol 1----800----40/d 2----800----35/d 3----800----35/d 4----600----30/d 5----600----xxxx 6----600----xxxx 7----600----xxxx 8----600----xxxx Plus 3 weeks of post-cycle clomid treatment to get your natural test back up. That comes out to 196 dbol pills and most people buy them in 100's, so you'll need 200 of them, you can throw the last 4 in for on more day of the stuff. It also comes out to 4000mgs of Test. You can choose what kind of test you'd prefer. But cypionate and enanthate seems like good choices to me. They come in multidose vials so you get them cheaper, and there's only 1 ester, so you know when the shit's out of your system [10-11 days after last shot, roughly]. You'll also need Clomid to take every other day during the cycle, and then a 3 week post-cycle treatment. You should get 64 tabs of clomid, and that should cover you with a few extra. This cycle, everything included, should cost around 300 dollars give or take 25 depending on who you're buying from. SO TAKE YOUR WINNY AND YOUR PRIMO AND YOUR ALL ORAL CYCLES AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS. THAT THERE IS A REAL FIRST CYCLE. ASK ANYBODY ON THE BOARD, THIS WILL WORK, IT'S CHEAP, WHAT MORE CAN YOU WANT? Good luck. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
moe dank Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27)	posted March 30, 2000 06:39 PM hell yeah bro! bump, bump, bump IP: Logged
E2 Moderator (Total posts: 1862)	posted March 30, 2000 06:46 PM I like it! IP: Logged
THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 265)	posted March 30, 2000 07:00 PM A-MASS, DID YOUR DECA NUMBERS NOT POST OR DID YOU DECIDE NOT TO THROW IT IN? I LIKE TEST,D-BOL,DECA ALSO FOR A FIRST OR ANY STACK. IP: Logged
coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 398)	posted March 30, 2000 07:20 PM IP: Logged
nariclas Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61)	posted March 30, 2000 07:34 PM WHERE DID you live deca... let me see deca IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted March 30, 2000 07:34 PM back up top with it! Just didn't put the Deca in there, if you newbies want it, go for 400mg/week throughout the whole cycle. Just remember that you're sticking yourself more then, and it's more cash. The important thing is... this cycle will work without the deca, but not without the TESTOSTERONE! So if you've just got some extra money to spend... go buy a fuckload of whey protein and drink 10 shakes a day... try to go through 4 lbs of the powder per week. Not that I've got anything against Deca.. I was just thinking a simple, 2-roid stack would be good for most beginners. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130)	posted March 30, 2000 07:41 PM BUMP! Nice work AMASS...it'll take out some of the guesswork, and will give newbies a good place to start researching. Keep it up bro! ------------------ If you racked the bar, then you're lifting the bar. IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted March 30, 2000 10:46 PM up to the top. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted March 30, 2000 10:46 PM up to the top. bump it bro's, and let's hear from some newbies that are actually reading this. Any questions on the cycle, as posted? Aceguy asked do you need nolvadex. If you take clomid every other day you should not need nolvadex.. I would not worry about it. In my opinion people worry too much about gyno. There are guys who go through cycles with pretty powerful doses that don't even use an antiestrogen and have no problem with it. So you should be fine with the anti-estrogen. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male [This message has been edited by A-mass (edited March 30, 2000).] IP: Logged
Platinum Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74)	posted March 30, 2000 11:51 PM I have been here for awhile and needed to see a REAL stack. This is the one that looks like it will do it. I will stockpile. That is way more than I originally thought. But it sounds like a ringing endorsement by all. Bump Platinum ------------------ "Try? There is no try, there is do or do not do." -Yoda IP: Logged
Mojo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 38)	posted March 31, 2000 12:14 AM This seems like a good cycle to me, but i've commited to something about the same. what do you think about this? sus ------ anabol 750 ------- 35 500 ------- 35 500 ------- 35 500 ------- 35 500 ------- 35 500 ------- -- 250 ------- -- Clomid eod the whole cycle, untill week 8, and then 100mg a day for two weeks, followed by 50mg for another three. I'm sure everyone has there idea of the perfect first cycle, and some may be better than this? I read the post a while back about, if you could redo your first cycle all over again what would you do? As well as every cycle question that has been asked on the board for the last couple of months, along with other research, and this is what I thought would work for me. I'll find out soon. IP: Logged
DaBOMB Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 64)	posted March 31, 2000 01:47 AM BUMP.... NICE CLEAN>>> BOOYAH IP: Logged
thiassi Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 62)	posted March 31, 2000 11:45 AM Bump for rocky IP: Logged
airtyme Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278)	posted March 31, 2000 11:50 AM Good post. We need to keep it at the top for the newbies. ------------------ "Fear is a darkroom where negatives develop!" IP: Logged
LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130)	posted March 31, 2000 11:52 AM BUMP Might as well get it out of my system... ------------------ If you racked the bar, then you're lifting the bar. IP: Logged
Mojo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 38)	posted March 31, 2000 03:11 PM Bump IP: Logged
Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 141)	posted March 31, 2000 03:22 PM Good info. BUMP IP: Logged
Gobler Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 182)	posted March 31, 2000 03:26 PM BUMP IP: Logged
bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 222)	posted March 31, 2000 03:44 PM I LIKES....HEH HEH!!! BUMPITY BUMP forgot to mention to have some nolvadex on hand for the sore ninnys. ------------------ lift eat grow!!! IP: Logged
blkLotus Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48)	posted March 31, 2000 03:45 PM BUMP Good solid advice. IP: Logged
BigCatratcho Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 270)	posted March 31, 2000 03:57 PM Man I remember studying for my first D-Bol TEST! nice cycle bro ------------------ -THE honduran IP: Logged
abc-29 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 90)	posted March 31, 2000 04:31 PM isn't test/dbol only a little too androgenic... i think test/deca or dbol/deca would be better for a first stack. test/deca being the best of all. Also, I think that 600test/400deca is pleanty to start out with. IP: Logged
jettstream Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 126)	posted March 31, 2000 05:27 PM i like it too, the test and dbol seem a little high for me, BUT it looks good BUMP jeTT! IP: Logged
spoonman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22)	posted March 31, 2000 05:36 PM looks good A. I'm a newbie to juice but not to lifting. I already got my first cycle and decided on going easy on dbol/deca/primo because i'm prone to liver problems, and I wanted to see how my body responds first, since I have pretty good genetics. But yours looks like it will be my next cycle for sure. Thnx IP: Logged
LEGEND Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2)	posted March 31, 2000 06:01 PM AMASS love it my first was test dbol and deca a long long time ago and that was the shit then and now but now i like hcg just for good luck IP: Logged
jettstream Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 126)	posted March 31, 2000 06:04 PM this is what i am doing next month!! a good cycle would be: week # / t200 mg per week / dbol per day 1 600 6 2 600 6 3 600 5 4 500 4 5 500 3 6 400 7 400 8 300 + clomid eod (every other day) throughout + 100mg every day after your last shot for one week + 50mg every day for two weeks there after jeTT!! IP: Logged
giantset Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92)	posted March 31, 2000 06:09 PM I'm telling ya, d-bol and test is THE BEST stack for a first timer. I didn't use that much test or d-bol my first time round and I put on 37lbs of which I kept about 28-30lbs. I know it sounds like bullshit but a potent stack like that on a first timer will give you the best gains you will ever get from roids, so don't fuck around and ruin your virgin gains. Later, giantset IP: Logged
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100)	posted March 31, 2000 07:51 PM 4lbs of protein a week!!!! that cost twice as much as the cycle itself! lol ------------------ seeyaatthegym! IP: Logged
BuffNStuff2k Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20)	posted March 31, 2000 08:09 PM Hey A-Mass, you're cycle looks good and all, but whats the big deal if newbies post their cycle or ask questions about cycles? Isn't that what this board is for? How are newbies supposed to learn if they dont ask? Remember, you were a newbie once yourself. IP: Logged
Farmer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12)	posted March 31, 2000 09:39 PM Thanks a-mass, If novadex is availible vrs clomid what's the dossage. IP: Logged
hecman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1)	posted March 31, 2000 09:51 PM hey, the info sounds pretty good, but where can i get the stuff, ive been working out for a while and im ready to try a first cycle .. IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted April 01, 2000 12:07 AM Hey bro, I didn't say there's anything wrong with posting cycles and asking questions about them. I agree that knowledge is why this board is here. It's just my opinion that instead of learning the hard way by trying some cycle with ridiculously small dosages, or a primo only cycle or something -- newbies should use their virgin cycle on something with strong androgens and test-dosages. BTW -- I agree that gains could be optimized by adding deca or another anabolic like EQ to this stack. But like I said -- it doesn't have to be more complicated than it is.... This will work. So this isn't anything telling newbies to stop asking questions -- just pointing guys in the right direction ----> towards more testosterone. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
king89123 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 90)	posted April 01, 2000 12:16 AM BUMP TO A-MASS. THAT IS A SOLID STACK. NEWBIES LISTEN UP! TEST RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ "KING"-GOTTA COME UPP!! IP: Logged
A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted April 01, 2000 12:26 AM Actually up there in the original message of the post I did say, "I hope this will cut down on the number of posts..." And I don't want to be an asshole and a hypocrite. My real view is feel free to ask questions; but, read up too. Last year I didn't know jack shit about juice. Now I'm pretty confident I can give solid advice on most topics to beginners. For all you guys who are asking "what are the best roids for first cycle" though... here is your answer. Right on king! TESTOSTERONE RULES! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE SHIT. NOT ONLY HAVE I BECOME A MONSTER IN THE GYM -- I AM BEGINNING TO FEEL LIKE MY PENIS HAS A RIGHT TO BE IN EVERY PRETTY GIRL THAT I SEE. AND IT IS A GOOD FEELING! Yeah, sorry about that. ------------------ ------------------- the alpha male IP: Logged
The_Blond_Myth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 123)	posted April 01, 2000 12:42 AM what more could u want? a bottle of ref-b and a bottle of equipoise. Gave me 20lbs 15 muscle. for half the cost of your cycle. LP IP: Logged

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