posted March 30, 2000 05:42 AM         

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I am 22 and have been bodybuilding for 4 years i took my first course last october. Winny and primo six weeks
week
1 200 primo 150 winny
2 200 primo 150 winny
3 300 primo 150 winny
4 300 primo 150 winny
5 200 primo 150 winny
6 200 primo 150 winny

this worked well but i now wish to take a course that will give me far more size and strength. I would also like to look a bit ripped as i am normally carry a bit of excess weight. I have considered example 1 in the WAR. Deca D-bol then onto primo and winny. I have read alot on the juice but would appreciate some good advice. Should i include clomid in this cycle as many of you talk of this, i thought HCG would be enough. And could any one tell me about how bad d-bol really is for acne and bitch tits and water retention.

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posted March 30, 2000 05:46 AM            

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you should take clomid the whole way through. not only will it prevent testicular shrinkage and gynomastia, there is some evidence (bill roberts) that taking clomid all the way through a cycle will lower cholesterol levels instead of what happens when you take steroids w/o clomid, they go higher. because it is only 50 cents a pill and you only need one a day it is a good investment.

some people into steroids are more concerned with avoiding side effects instead of avoiding the drugs that cause them.

ie-if acne bothers you, instead of avoiding dianabol, use accutane or retin-a

i don't know what to do about water retention. i have heard that glycerol and/or winstrol will cut it down.

gyno can be prevented by taking clomid the whole way through. if you still start to get gyno, take 20 mg nolvadex a day along with the clomid.

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