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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 30, 2000 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

i want to gain permanent muscle. side effect aren't a big concern for me, as long as they are manageable. my two choices are this.

300-400 mg deca a week & 25-30 mg dianabol a day

600 mg test (either propionate or enanthate, no sustenon) & 25-30 mg dianabol a day.

i am only doing a 4 week cycle to make the gains more permanent. thank you. i know all about anti-estrogens and post-cycle tactics, i just want some info on which is better. i don't do sports so getting tested isn't a concern.

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Heemaan445
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posted March 30, 2000 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
if it were in my hands I'd definitely do the enathate and d-bol.....if your going short hard cycle, do u have any clomid..?

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Joseph_stalin
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posted March 30, 2000 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

yeah. i have got clomid and nolvadex on hand. i am thinking about using a cytomel pyramid along with my cycle.

personally, i like the deca & dbol myself. it seems more broken in. i just don't know if there is any real difference between the two in regards to permanence and intensity of muscle gains.

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Heemaan445
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posted March 30, 2000 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
I havent gotten into big stacks....but from personal experience.....the test/d-bol gives me more gain, which in turn gives me more loss afterwards, but yet I end up with more when all is said and done....

some bodies react differently when not doing too high of doses.....life isnt over after a 4 week cycle, just do one, see how it goes, take some time off, then do the other one.....then you'll know how "you" react to them....

am I making sense, maybe its all the drugs I'm taking....

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the truth
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posted March 30, 2000 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth     Edit/Delete Message
I recommend 3 wks on, 2 weeks off, followed by 2 weeks on, 3 weeks off. Repeat. Start w/ the enanthate, high dose, in the first week of each 3 wk minicycle, and use prop in moderate doses in the other weeks. I didn't use D-bol when I did this, but it should work fine.

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