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ahthong
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posted March 29, 2000 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahthong     Edit/Delete Message
Or for that matter, any other smaller-sized pros, i.e. Shawn Ray and Francis Benfatto. I'm just curious. Thanks!

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Grip
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posted March 29, 2000 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Grip   Click Here to Email Grip     Edit/Delete Message
Columbo mid 400's. Eddie Robinson high 500's at 220. Me (world champion powerlifter bench press specialist) 600+ at under 200lbs. Bodybuilders cannot and will not bench heavy. Anyone have proof otherwise?

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BIG HURT
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posted March 29, 2000 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG HURT   Click Here to Email BIG HURT     Edit/Delete Message
Totally agreed

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KingDbol
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posted March 29, 2000 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingDbol     Edit/Delete Message
Franco Columbo, two-time Mr. Olympia, ranked number two bencher in the world 1972, 451 at 181 lbs., personal best 535. Eddie Robinson, 1986 American Powerlifting Federation world record at 220, 610 pounds; 1989 Mr. USA. Hey ahthong, are your initials, D.W.?

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D-Town
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posted March 29, 2000 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D-Town   Click Here to Email D-Town     Edit/Delete Message
I still love powerlifting to this day. I started lifting with powerlifters and obviously they could always bench more than the bodybuilders. I think most bodybuilders are to leary of injury from low rep extreemly heavy sets, although I still through in some low rep, high weight sets every once and a while.

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ruffy
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posted March 29, 2000 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ruffy     Edit/Delete Message
When did bench pressing become a powerlift? If it ain't a clean or snatch, then it ain't a powerlift!

I must say that a bench press over 400 is pretty damn impressive!

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ahthong
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posted March 30, 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahthong     Edit/Delete Message
No KingDbol, my initials are not D.W.

GRIP, if you are reading this, did you bench 600 for reps or just one? Anyhow, did you use any anabolics? Thanks!

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E2
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posted March 30, 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Grip 600+ at under 200lbs!!!!! Very nice!!!!

I'd like to see that, i'll have to tell you 600 will come to me one day, i don't care if i die trying, it will come.

Do you mind if i email you about your training?

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jared
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posted March 30, 2000 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jared   Click Here to Email jared     Edit/Delete Message
re: bodybuilder dont bench heavy
didnt yates bench heavy?? he supposedly could handle 440 to 460 for 6 to 8 reps. i have a frined who trained at haneys gym in the late 80s who told me he saw him put up 435 for 7 good reps. what about cormier, who is supposed to have some freaky strength?? i am curious to know if anybody
has seen or heard of the top pros using the big weights?? magazines cant be trusted, but still wondering

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cjac1
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posted March 30, 2000 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Grip
I have to take that on. Me, mid 500 at 250lbs. 455 for 8 clean reps. I also witnessed Chris Cormier do 500+ at 250lbs+. BB have gone heavy to get a lot of their size and many are very strong. But, stregth gets to a point of diminishing returns. Then you have to find other ways to grow, ie many Pros. I have lived in Venice CA. and during the off season I've seen many Pros go heavy. Another common myth, "BB are big but, not strong".

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tri~zilla
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posted March 31, 2000 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tri~zilla   Click Here to Email tri~zilla     Edit/Delete Message
and what about Kovacs if you consider him a
BB then he has some pretty impresive stats.


tri

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blkLotus
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posted March 31, 2000 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blkLotus   Click Here to Email blkLotus     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11023347
Wow....
I remember a quote from the Arnold S. bible...

"since i have long arms, its tough for me to put up 400lbs more than 8 times."

well... since i have short arms.. its tough for me to imagine anything near that for one time ! ha ha ha

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KingDbol
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posted March 31, 2000 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingDbol     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry ahthong, I meant to ask that question to Grip. This is because the only man I know who hit a 600+ bench press at the 198 pound weight class in a powerlifting federation and holds a record is no other than the great Dave Waterman. He hit a 628 bench at 198 pounds. I could be wrong, but thats what i read in Powerlifting USA. Sorry.

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spoonman
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posted March 31, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Grip, I have to disagree. BB's will lift heavy because there are advanges from it. Aside from the strenth, it will give your muscles that hard look that repping a less than max weight just can't do.

Columbu used to say he can just look at a BB and tell he didn't lift heavy because his muscles would have that "soft" look.

Consequently he and Arnold firmly believed in the old training technique of doing heavy and light days.

I followed this split and my strength skyrocketed. But as for the hardness argument, I have noticed this personally. My arms are my strongest parts and I frequently lift them very heavy. And they are really hard looking for it, even unflexed and this was pre-juice. (as opposed to my legs will look soft because knees prevent heavy squating)

spoon

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spoonman
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posted March 31, 2000 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
BTW,

Jared's right. Perfect example. Cormier has extrememly strong tri's. I saw him do overhead ext's with some freaky weight and just look at how hard his tri's look.

sp

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Huge&Co
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posted March 31, 2000 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Huge&Co   Click Here to Email Huge&Co     Edit/Delete Message
This should be renamed the B.S. board......
what difference does it make how much someone can bench, I've seen some big benchers with very unimpessive pec's, if you are a BB, form and reps are the two most important things and weight has to be enough to stimulate growth. I consider myself a moderatly heavy bencher in the 400 Lbs range(for reps) but i have a 56" chest to back that up at a weight of 268 Lbs and 12% bfp.
If you have any kind of genetics and follow the advice from some of the more knowledgable BB on this board you will go a long way. You can never learn enough !!

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cjac1
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posted April 01, 2000 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Well Sh*t Huge&Co. If this is the B.S. board. Put your money where your mouth is. Let's see this 268lbs of 12% BF, 56" hav'in chest monster. That would make you a pretty large and lean Mofo. Or is that, how you put it? B.S. If your going to post #s like that I and others would love to see it. Because, I believe muscle thickness and extreme hardness comes from heavy weights, not moderate weights.

[This message has been edited by cjac1 (edited April 01, 2000).]

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KingDbol
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posted April 02, 2000 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingDbol     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Huge&Co, if you can do 400+ for reps, what have you maxed out at?

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