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Ian88
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 23)
posted March 29, 2000 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ian88   Click Here to Email Ian88     Edit/Delete Message
I am currently on a cycle and wanting to join the Maines or Navy. Does anyone know if they test for gear during the medical exams? I do not use street drugs so the normal drug tests will be cool, but just don't want to screw myself. I also do not want to wait 'til it clears my system. What do you think guys?

Ian

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TEXASLFTR
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posted March 29, 2000 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEXASLFTR   Click Here to Email TEXASLFTR     Edit/Delete Message
Ian,
Listen bro, I wouldn't worry too much about the drug tests for the military as far as AS are concerned. They are mainly testing for the hard stuff like cocaine, heroin, and MJ (not that a little weed is hard stuff...).

The only thing I would advise against would be the use of Insulin if you are doing anything like that. When you take your piss test they are going to test it for blood sugar using litmus paper. You don't want to come up looking like a diabetic.

In fact, AS and the military are pretty compatible although if I were offering my advice speaking as a veteran, I would stay the hell away from the fucking Navy. (no offense sailors.) Talk to Ranger and Arm E Man. What do you want to do in the military?

If it is any kind of Elite force-type work let me tell you, it sounds alot cooler when you are hearing about it. 30 mile road marches and no sleep for days at a time, jumping in the freezing fucking cold, and being wet and miserable are not some of the most pleasant times I've had. Although one thing is true, there is a certain nobility in suffering with your buddies when you know there are pussies all over the world who are crying and whining about the US and how their "freedom is being threatened".

Anyway, sorry I got off on a rant for a minute there. You should be fine. Just be smart. Don't go out and get high the week before you join or any stupid shit like that.

Good Luck and Keep your feet and knees together.
SDW

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ARM E MAN
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posted March 29, 2000 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ARM E MAN   Click Here to Email ARM E MAN     Edit/Delete Message
As far as i know they don't test for AS.
As for navy i would say HELL NOOOOOO! my brother is in and he hates it bad!! Talk to CHESTYII or CONAN69 They are Marines, or you can email me, i'll tell you about the ARMY as i see it. I don't trust RANGER anymore after that Bunny fiasco.j/k bro
Good Luck
OUT

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The Ranger
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posted March 29, 2000 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
They don't test...unless they would have GREAT cause....ie.....you brag about it to everyone.....don't keep it in the barracks if you cycle while in. If your looking for a trade, for civilian life...go Air Force......If it's the excitement your looking for.....anything in the Special Operations community would suit you to a tee!!

Tis a far better thing to be airborne, or scuba....than be a leg, and common air breather(CAB)!! Don't sweat the test Bro! The military is in great demand right now for bodies.....The Army is offering huge signing bonuses right now....good college fund...BUT....Make it your choice, and GET IT in writing!!!

If I can help...e-mail me Bro!!

Arm E Man....fuck you....I'll post that love letter you sent me!!!...heh heh heh heh....just kidd'in Bro....it was a good one....

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ranger

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BIZ
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posted March 29, 2000 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIZ     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60842902
NO OFFENESE TAKEN GUY'S I WAS IN THE NAVY FOR JUST UNDER 10....

I WAS A HOSPITAL CORPSMAN I WAS WITH THE MARINES DOWN IN SAN DOGS FOR TWO YEARS.. MAN THE RESPECT THE DOGS GAVE ME FOR BEING A "DOC" WAS UNEXPLAINABLE....I WILL NOT GO INTO DEPTH WHAT "PROGRAM" I WAS IN BUT I WILL SAY GROUND POUNDING IS NO JOKE!!!!

EVEN AS A CORPSMAN WE HAD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE DOG'S DID!!

dO NOT BECOME ANYTHING IN THE NAVY OTHER THAN A DENTAL TECH, HOSPITAL CORPSMAN, PERSONALMAN, YOEMAN, THOSE JOBS THERE WILL TAKE YOU VERY FAR THEY HAVE SPECIALTIES....

STAY AWAY FROM THE SHIP IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS EMAIL ME BRO!

BIZ!

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Titan
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posted March 29, 2000 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Titan   Click Here to Email Titan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66708785
The only thing that you might have to worry about is if your taking in a lot of protien. I seen a guy get DQ for having to much protien in his urine.

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onlythestrong
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posted March 29, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onlythestrong   Click Here to Email onlythestrong     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah the navy recruiters use lies to get people to join, so glad I got out before being committed.

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BIZ
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posted March 29, 2000 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIZ     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 60842902
THAT TYPE OF PROTIEN IS A SIGN OF V/D BRO..

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conan69
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posted March 29, 2000 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
YEah biz, DOC's are highly respected especially since i am a grunt

DONT GO IN FOR INFANTRY

learn something, like a trade i recommend the air wing, they have a great life and you get some good knowledge

but if you are a ground pounder and you "WANT TO GET SOME" "YUT YUT"
THEN INFANRY IS FOR YOU
GOOD LUCK

ps no the military doesnt test for AS even at MEPS

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big_dan
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posted March 29, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_dan   Click Here to Email big_dan     Edit/Delete Message

What up RANGER & ARM E MAN I knew I 'd find you here!!! Well I know We addressed this question before. Ian, bro, It all depends on what you are taking, and how long you wait. They test random samples for intitial entry. Know when you get to your unit the only time the will do a test is if they have suspiction. What are you taking? I think it's deca that can be found in your system for a year. (I'm not sure about that one.) What do you plan on doing? If you want to conyinue lifting (well from my experiances) Infantry is not the way to go, I spend 9,or10 months in the field a year, plus the Fucking gay ass Balkans(although I did lift a lot in bosnia, Kososvo doesn't have the facilities yet but give brown and root a couple of months)and shitty Kuwait. DEath valley, JRTC.
Well I can not tell you to go Infantry. I think Infantry chooses the man not the other way around. Peace to my war dawgs,

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1AbBIG
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posted March 29, 2000 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1AbBIG   Click Here to Email 1AbBIG     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43346757
The Marine Corps is good to go . Hell with ground pounding. Airwaing all the way . It is nice working 0700-1630 M-F. No different then a civilian job, except you always wear Marine Corps Greens. HEHE!! I love the wing. Aviation Electrician.

Semper Fi!

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TEXASLFTR
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posted March 29, 2000 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEXASLFTR   Click Here to Email TEXASLFTR     Edit/Delete Message
One correction. You will be piss-tested at your unit every month or so if you are in garrison (unless that has changed in the last three years), but as previously stated, it will not be for AS almost always.

As far as the infantry, I, as stated before would recommend staying the fuck away from, unless you really feel you must prove something to yourself inside. Only you know the answer to that.

If Spec Ops is the way you want to go, go the Pararescue, or Combat control route. This is the Air Force Spec ops. You still get to do the high speed shit, without having to live in the worlds shittiest barracks, and without being "tasked out" to do shit like clean up peoples fucking trash after a hurricane, ect.

If either Ranger or Arm E Man are in the Regiment, I would have to ask if you know a close friend of mine who recently left 3rd BAT. His Name is SSG Brent Jessen.

Let me know fellas.

Anyway, talk to all the recruiters, but talk to them after educating yourself about what each service has to offer. The college fund is awesome and it has paid for my last three years of school. I will be pretty broke when I stop getting my $930 a month in May.

All the Way,
SDW

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Chris
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posted March 29, 2000 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris   Click Here to Email Chris     Edit/Delete Message
Thats good to hear Bro's. I have been tested before and was wondering what would happen if I were to ever get on a cycle and have to take a piss test for the Army. Didn't realize their were others on here in the service.

I guess I'm not really in the military anymore, just in Reserve/College student.

My $.02 Join Air Force. I know we always make fun of them in the Army, but its all because were jealous. (or at least I am)

But its good to hear military doesn't test for AS in the normal piss test. In case I ever were to do a cylce some day.

Hhoooaaa
(Its a Army Thing)

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jojo
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posted March 29, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jojo     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bro,

I was in the Navy. I was assigned to VFA-86 an F/A 18 squadron and I loved it. We went aboard the USS America and toured the Med seveeral times. One really good thing about the navy is that you TRAVEL ALOT! That means you go into different countries once to twice a month. (Turkey, Greece, Spain etc...) They all have pharmacies that you can buy almost anything in. Another GREAT thing about the Navy is that you dont go through customs coming back in to the US. I am not saying you should join the Navy but it does have it's advantages.

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Good luck and GRO BIG!!

JOJO

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bignate73
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posted March 30, 2000 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
Airwing is an alright way to go, pretty lax unless someone just gets off the drill field and has a wild hair to start all kinds of b.s. All i can say is if you go to the wing side, go avionics. anything else and the outside world has trouble understanding what you did while you were in. "what do you mean you loaded bombs on the plane??? and then what??" lol. poor ordys.
infantry is good to go if you like deploying and cleaning rifles. thats all i saw those guys doing on my westpacs. go to the gym, clean rifles and wait for chow. lol. i sometimes wished i was doing that instead. there are pros and cons to going in or staying out. you gotta find what suits you.
im speaking from marine experience of course. blue side or army dog side is not known to me. but we all know about air force...ah that must be the life....lol. peace!

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Big Wiggs
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posted March 30, 2000 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Wiggs   Click Here to Email Big Wiggs     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bro,

Trust me Air Force is the way to go. As far as the Marines, Army and Navy go. What if your on a cycle and you have to go to the field for a couple weeks? You won't be able to eat but probably 3 meals a day and they'll be MREs. If your in the Army living in the barracks you have to live with other folks sharing rooms and that sort of bullshit. You get treated like crap in the Army. Marines I have some respect for them. As far as the Navy goes I'm not down with being on a ship with other guys for months at a time FUCK that. I'm In the Air Force. Stationed in Germany I have my own place with my wife. I can if I wanted to get get gear from Greece, Spain, France like walikng into a candy store and they don't test you like everyone else said except for wacky tabacky (weed, endo what ever you want to call it) I work 7:45 to 4:45 Mon- Fri weekends and holidays off. I get an 1 hour and a half gym time it's the best set up in the world. Go Air Force.

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vexed
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posted March 30, 2000 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vexed   Click Here to Email vexed     Edit/Delete Message
First off let me say being in the military is dealing with a whole lot of bullshit. Every service seems to have their special bullshit. Everyone in any givin service will try to sway you to theirs. I am in the navy, although the navy has not done anything really bad for me I don't really think I'll be re-enlisting. BTW I am a crypto-geek with a TS clearence which will get me plenty on the outside. If you like manual labor, hey good for you but every service has desk jobs. Although I personally know a marine linguist that went to wash trucks after the marines spent over 200,000 on her training. She went to wash trucks... ooh rah whatever. I am not saying join I am not saying don't. You will discover a lot about yourself that I am not sure you would on the outside while in the forces. But keep in mind the bullshit you will endure as well. To be quite honest I am not sure where I am going. Anyone that has served will usually tell you it was one of the best things they ever did. For me it was. Do I want to keep on like this for the rest of my life? No... most definitly not. Especially not in the intel community...

Flame ON!

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AZQuadz
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posted March 30, 2000 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AZQuadz   Click Here to Email AZQuadz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54353319
I was in the Marines for 6 years. I did get tested twice for AS, but I was also in a unit that reguarly tested all the "big guys." We had a prick for a 1stSgt who couldn't even do one pull up! I read on a different post that the only way you can detect AS in your system is through a blood test. That's bullshit! I tested positive once in a urin test for nandralones (but they have to be looking for it)(plus they sent the sample to the lab at UCLA.) I do have a copy of the results if anyone would like to see it. Luckily I passed it off as Norandrostein because they didn't want to spend that money again to retest me. It all depends on what unit you are in, what your MOS is (military job) and how much money your unit is alloted in funding. But overall, most units at least in the marine corps over look it as long as you are not out in the open about it. Now if you get caught with it in your possesion, that's a different story, 1st they will give you a urin test, then to back up the results they will give you a blood test. And in the Corps, you don't have a choice! GO TO COLLEGE ... GET BIG .... AND GO PRO!

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DurkDiggler
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posted March 30, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DurkDiggler     Edit/Delete Message
Question for "big dan" or others on board with knowledge of KUWAIT.
Upcoming tour of duty in KUWAIT. Seeking information on availability of anabolics in country. Have been told that 'CAMP DOHA' has huge GYM.

Will appreciate any experienced replies.

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ZEUS
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posted March 30, 2000 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEUS   Click Here to Email ZEUS     Edit/Delete Message
Listen To Us Army Guys! Especially Us Grunts! GO TO THE AIR FORCE! LOL
We are very serious about this. And if you want adventure just go para-rescue in the Air Force. Im SF (Part Time Now) And Its killing me after 11 years. And Im only 30!

SEX SEX SEX! Freaky Deaky Circus Sex!

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shaonuff
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posted March 30, 2000 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shaonuff   Click Here to Email shaonuff     Edit/Delete Message
go air force!!! i was in the air force for 8 years, only got tested 4 times on random drug tests. the air force is a s close as you can be to being a civilian. i was single and moved off bas as an e-3. didn't have to stay in the dorms like the army and navy guys.

believe me....army guys have it rough. i use to be a flying crew chief on c-141's and we would go up to ft. bragg to pick up the airborne up there to jump out of our planes. while they were out in the field camping for a week.....we were put up in our own hotel rooms. hahaha you pick: hotles or tents.

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TEXASLFTR
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posted March 30, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEXASLFTR   Click Here to Email TEXASLFTR     Edit/Delete Message
Shoanuff...you probably put me out of the door a few times then.
And I wouldn't call what we did in the woods "camping".

When was this? I was at Bragg 93-97.

SDW

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