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 Will strength eventually=size?
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ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 161) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:12 AM
  
Say your using fina, test and other (non-size) drugz. it will increase strength-help you lift more and in turn make you bigger. IS this right or am I smoking to much C-Rock? IP: Logged |
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cjac1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 234) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:23 AM
In the beginning strength will = size. Eventually strength will taper off. Then you try like hell to get larger. My strength has pretty much hit a ceiling, give or take a few pounds. Then you try other training methods to grow. Not to say you don't try and get stronger all the time. IP: Logged |
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Les Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 296) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:26 AM
food for thought there is a bb'er at my gym who struggles with 180 on the cable row, yet has the back of a manta ray...oh, and he really isn't strong, he gets his ass kicked often. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 483) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:50 AM
Strength has a lot to do with neuromuscular adaptation - you get stronger as your brain learns to recruit more muscle fibers to perform the exercise. This will not bring any real size gains. After your body has made this adjustment, size will follow. In time, you will ahve to try new routines to shock your muscles into growth - training for size is not the same (necesaarily) as training for strength. Matt IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:54 AM
Muscles grow because our bodies are like the most finely tuned machines of adaption ever. We put resistance on them, and they grow in order to adapt to the new more taxing environment. So yeah, for the most part, the more resistance [weioght] you're using, the more your muscles are going to grow. But like cjac1 said, there comes a point when you just aren't able to add any more strength. Just like other systems level out to an equilibrium asymptotically... so does this one. Your body can only support so much muscles and still properly function. Millions and millions of years of evolution have given you the body that you have, and it has evolved in order to survive so what comes first is what we need... and the bottom line is we don't NEED to be a solid 275 lb wall of muscle.... so the body just stops growing more. And at that point you just oughta be happy you pushed it to the limit and got yourself to adapt to as much resistance as you could. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted March 29, 2000 12:58 AM
There's a great article on mesomorphosis about this. I forgot the title, it talks about the process of how muscles actually gorw and different types of hypertrophy... but it is in 2 or 3 different parts, look around for it. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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beerbarbq Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 193) |
posted March 29, 2000 05:10 AM
It depends, most powerlifters and olympic lifters are a lot stronger than bodybuilders pound for pound, they are more neurologically effecient, it partly depends on how you train, I have experienced it myself, I got up to 200 at 5'8 when i was 18 and was pretty ripped but after another year of training I had dropped 10 pounds but got considerably stronger in all lifts so strength does not alway equal size, it just depends on training methods and also your individual body makeup. IP: Logged |
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Painkiller Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 60) |
posted March 29, 2000 08:26 AM
Do u call test a non size drug?!?! Ehh IP: Logged |
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susthead Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted March 29, 2000 08:57 AM
a side of effect or getting bigger is gering stronger a side effect of getting stronger is getting bigger. IP: Logged |
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xrciseink Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted March 29, 2000 08:59 AM
Everything everyone is saying is true. However, due to the complexity of the question and variations with the number of receptor sites in the muscles, it is very difficult to answer the question. Some people grow on anything. Others seem to get stronger with little growth. Others get bigger with little strength gains. It varies so much from individual to individual, that you can only try different training methods to try to achieve results. In laymans terms..it will be predetermined by your genetics. Thats why weight lifting and bodybuilding exist. To see who has it all. Very difficult question to understand if you don't have an anatomy and chemistry background. These days I think science, biology, chemestry, and anatomy is needed to understand these complex questions than getting a PT certification. Thats why so many judges need to be replaced. Unfortunately politics fuck this up all the time. I can't tell you how many people I have seen lose competitions just because they were lighter. Most, and I am stressing MOST, not all judges, don't have the backgrounds to know how to judge a physique. MOst simply go by height and weight. Symetry is lost over size, even if the smaller guy is bigger. The taller and heavier you can be gives competitors a big advantage over someone shorter and thicker. Even if your bone structure is what is making you heavier. I never knew that your bones and joints could determine a victory. Frankly, I think bodybuilding is becoming like a high school popularity contest. It needs to change, but I still love the sport more than anything. Well almost anything. IP: Logged |
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RoNiN Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72) |
posted March 29, 2000 01:40 PM
I agree 100% with the judges , it does need to be changed. IP: Logged |
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