posted March 28, 2000 08:28 PM         

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Ok guys the time has come, after over three months of research and weighing the pros and cons I've come to my decision I'M GOIN TO GET ON GEAR for my first 8 week cycle I have planed to use just Primobolen and Winstrol (sorry guys NO TEST)
Taking into consideration that I'm only
20 yrl I'm about 5'4 and weight 166lbs at about 9%bf and my last blood test I had ~650ng/1dl of test wich the doctor told me was pretty danm good!
I was thinking adding a small amount of DBol in order to bind the SHBG thus making the Primo more effective, but I only have access to Thai Anabol and I don't really like the idea of using a weak cat and dog AS especialy at $1 a pill, any how this cycle for me is just a test cycle to see how I feel on juice and to see if it's something I wanna keep doing, I came to chosing Primo and Winny as the AS I wanna do, since these two put on pretty permanet gains with little side effects, I'm gonna have Clomid and Nova handy even thougt I probabaly won't need them on this cycle, but I'm still gonna use Clomid every other day just in case plus I think my girlfriend might like my new 2liter "money shot" LOL any how this is the winny that I have access to please recomend wich I sould use :::: Winstrol 2mg. 20 tabs
Winstrol (stanozolol drops 40mg./ml 20ml bottles (Holiday Argentina)
Stanazolic (Winstrol) (Ilium Australia) 50mg./ml 20ml
The PRIMO ofcourse is Schenk 100mg

Please suggest a good 8week cycle based on my weigh, and the gear I wanna use,
right now I have no problem
making gains I went as far as gaining 20lbs of muscle in two and a half moths when I first started lifting ofcource this was when puberty first hit me like a fucking jack hammer,plus my Wrestling coaches were over seeing my training and diet.
I'de apreciate any Help thanks in advance!!

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posted March 28, 2000 09:34 PM            

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Sounds like you've done your homework. But do you really think you want to stack Primo and winny? Dude your already 5'4", 166#. What do you want to be 5'4" and 175? C'mon kid, if you've got access to all that gear, at least stack the primo with some deca if you won't do test. At least that way you might get some size. Honestly though, you should stay natural for another couple of years. If you just went through puberty, then you've still got some growing to do, don't mess with mother nature to quick.

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posted March 28, 2000 09:58 PM            

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Get the winny illium. Don't do the winny tabs...real toxic. Especially if youre gonna do dbol. For primo and winny I don't think you would hafta use clomid EOD. At the end I would but I dont think its necessary during. But if you want to play it safe thats cool bro. not too sure how to cycle primo and winny together. sorry man.

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posted March 28, 2000 10:04 PM            

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Bro,

You did not state your goals. We can't really help you if we don't know what result you want to achieve.

Matt

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posted March 28, 2000 10:38 PM         

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My goal is to gain some size and strenght with minimal side effects such as ::: "Bitch Tits" "Deca Dick" acne or water retention and and once I get off gear I'de like to keep my gains (ofcourse gear or not I'm still gonna keep busting my ass in the gym) these two AS, will do just that, this is just a little intro for me to the world of AS after my cycle I'm gonna take a Step back and decide if I want to continue the use of AS, if I'm willing to pay the price or if I'm just gonna use it as life experience to tell my kids about when I get older!!!

[This message has been edited by BIG RICK ROCK (edited March 28, 2000).]

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posted March 29, 2000 06:36 AM         

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BUMP! Danmit a fake pic of a girl gets like 67 responses and I can't even get four something is wrong here?

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posted March 29, 2000 07:20 AM            

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I am similar proportions to you..This was my first cycle and it Rocks!

100 mg Deca
200 mg Deca
300 mg Deca
400 mg Deca
400 mg Deca
300 mg Deca
200 mg Deca
100 mg Deca + Clomid
Clomid

Remember...your first cycle is one of the best for gains. So train well BEFOREHAND and during...and Eat Eat Eat.

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posted March 29, 2000 07:39 AM            

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Well you are going to have a suprise when your on deca!(decadick)Maybe! Why won't u use test? It's natural in our body and your body has used this steroid since mother earth was made! But u want to use all this gears that has been made up by a mad scientist. Use the natural thing, TEST!
I'm on test now and I've never been happier in my hole life!

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posted March 29, 2000 01:08 PM         

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Well in response to what PainKiller said::: I'm NOT even thinking of useing DECA whats the point packing on muscle if my dick is linp and about TEST, I had my physical done a few weeks ago and My doc said my TEST levels are realy good(~650ng/nd). Now you are right about TEST it is natural and you body makes it, however if I inject TEST then my body's own TEST production will diminish and once I get off TEST the crash is gonna make me feel like shit,

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posted March 29, 2000 04:48 PM            

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Thats why you use clomid

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posted March 29, 2000 05:40 PM            

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to big rick: Well u don't have to crash hard, as posted before, use clomid during and after cycle and taper down. I also like to start with eca(or at least ephedrine) and clen a few weeks(1-2) after my cycle. By cycling eca and clen, I have never felt like shit, EVER! Maybe sometimes I can get a little sad, because some of the gains seems to go away, but then I think to myself that this is just water and fat.
If u use test at moderate levels u don't really have to crash at all!(just my exp.)

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posted March 29, 2000 06:57 PM         

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Well thanx for the input I guess maybe if I chose to do a second cycle I can add some Primoteston depot or some sus,
Also I'm thinking of using Dbol instead of winny... Primo an Dbol suposely stack pretty well...

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