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Workout_buff
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posted March 28, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
I read your previous post detailing your cycle. Can you explain the rationale for taking insulin again 4 hours later from the workout? If I workout in the evening, 4 hours later would be close to bedtime. What alternatives do I have?

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cjac1
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posted March 28, 2000 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
That's 4ius. 8 hours past the first dose. You can take the 4ius right after workout. Wait 30mns then eat 40gms of cards. Hour later eat your protien.

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Workout_buff
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posted March 28, 2000 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
thx - you also mentioned that taking T3 with GH and insulin helps. WHen do you take T3? In the morning or after the workout? WHen in the cycle do you start to use T3. And doesn't T3 act as a fat burner, which is essentially what GH does?

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cjac1
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posted March 29, 2000 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
You can cycle T3 up from 25mcg to 100 mcg and taper down. I've do this for as long as 6 weeks at a time but, I wouldn't tell anyone to do that. You should cycle it over 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks off. GH does help burn fat but, it also after time lowers your own T3 and insulin sen. So you replace it during the cycle.

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Workout_buff
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posted March 29, 2000 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
thx - for my weight of 210lbs, will a typical day of GH, insulin, T3 and anabolics consumption as shown below work? Can you please recommend changes where necessary?

0730 hrs Wake up
5IU insulin
200mg deca, 250mg sost (only on
days 1 and 4 of the week)

0800hrs Breakfast (60g protein, 40g carb)
Creatine (7.5mg)

1030hrs 2nd meal(60g protein, 40g carb)
T3 (25mcg)

1200hrs Training

1315hrs End of training
5 IU insulin

1345hrs Lunch (60g protein, 40g carbs)
Creatine (7.5mg)

1530hrs 4th meal(60g protein, 40g carb)

1830hrs Dinner(60g protein, 40g carb)


2130hrs protein shake

2330hrs bedtime
4-6iu GH
250mg sost (only on day 1)

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WarLobo
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posted March 29, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarLobo   Click Here to Email WarLobo     Edit/Delete Message
No fats?!?!?!

Late

Lobo

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Workout_buff
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posted March 29, 2000 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
Not sure if there is much fat - the meals are basically 12-15oz of steamed skinless chicken breasts and 10 oz of yams.

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cjac1
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posted March 30, 2000 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Split your GH up. AM 2 to 3ius. Bed 2 to 3ius. Make your morning insulin 4ius and your post workout 6ius. Also for ever 1iu of insulin eat 10gms of simple cards. 4iu = 40gms/6ius = 60gms. Later cjac1

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Workout_buff
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posted March 30, 2000 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
cjac1 - could you pls recommend when the GH should be taken in the morning since i will also be taking insulin prior to breakfast and i know for a fact that GH and insulin should not be consumed at the same time.

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cjac1
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posted March 30, 2000 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
How much time do ya have in the AM?

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Workout_buff
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posted March 30, 2000 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Workout_buff   Click Here to Email Workout_buff     Edit/Delete Message
I will be on vacation for the next 2 months when i go on the cycle, so i have plenty of time in the morning.

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cjac1
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posted March 31, 2000 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjac1   Click Here to Email cjac1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30896181
Get up take the GH first thing. Wait 30mns inject insulin. Wait 30mns and eat. It gives your system an hour to move the GH thur. Good luck.

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