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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 06:20 PM
  
man i'm fucking deppressed i just found out that my body fat % is 24 % . what the fuck huh!!!! i asked a guy to do it and he took tape mesurements of my wrist(7) STOMACH(39) AND WEIGHT WHICH HE THOGHT WAS 195 BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 185LBS 5'8HT . BUT STILL I'M DEPPRESSED. TODAY IS THE START OF MY FIRST CYCLE SO I SHOULD BE EXCITED. I'M DOING STANAZOILC AN EQ. SO I GUESS THIS CUTTING CYCLE IS WHAT I NEED!!!! I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME CLEN. WHAT DO YO THINK??? IP: Logged |
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AHKA Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
posted March 27, 2000 06:42 PM
You cant make a cycle with this BF You will gain another fat and is unhealthy Hard time awaiting you... dieting dieting dieting or go on DNP. Clen or ECA is not good for massive fat loss Only DNP work well Cheers IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 105) |
posted March 27, 2000 06:47 PM
Waist-wrist measurements are bullshit. Get some calipers instead of jamming that needle into your brainstem. Puc IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 914) |
posted March 27, 2000 06:52 PM
I would avoid the cycle until you bring that BF% down to about 16%. Diet and Cardio is the way to go. Low fat, low carb diet, too. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:00 PM
DUDE WHAT IF I JUST START MY CYCLE??? IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 914) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:08 PM
Then stay with it and keep a low fat, low carbo, and high protein diet. Do cardio 5 times per week and do high reps in the gym. Gear is anti-catabolic, so you will not lose any muscle (but only fat) from the cardio. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:16 PM
YOU SEE 2THICK I KNEW GEAR IS ANTI-CATABOLIC THAT'S WHY I STILL WANTED TO DO IT. I WAS THINKING OF TAKING THE WIINY AND THE EQ WITH SOME HYDROXYCUT AND MAYBE EVEN A FAT BURNER CALLED THERMOFUSION. HOW MUCH BF% DO YOU THINK I'LL LOSE WITH THE GEAR 2 THICK P.S AHKA SAID I WILL JUST ADD ON FAT AND THAT I WOULD HAVE HARD TIMES AWAITING FOR ME WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THAT IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 914) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:20 PM
He meant that it does not matter if you are using gear or not. You still need to work your ass off if you want to lose the fat. Gear or no gear, it all comes down to hard work and dedication. Just because it is anti-catabolic does not mean that it melts away fat. All it does is prevent your muscle from being used as an energy source. You will be much better off if you were at or below 16%. Self-discipline is what really builds muscle and burns fat...everything else is just a variable. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 472) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:32 PM
Bro, First, go for a more accurate measurement. Tape measure is a ball park figure. 2Thick is 100% correct in saying that hard work and dedication is what will build muscle and lose fat. Nothing else. Hard work also means watching your diet and doing cardio. At that bodyfat, you should find that adding or increasing cardio will cause you to lose fat quickly. No offense, but it is the last but of fat that is the hardest to shed. Matt IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:35 PM
WHERE CAN I GO FOR A MORE ACCURATE MESUREMENT. AND IF I DO MY CYCLE WHAT IS THE MOST BODY FAT I CAN LOSE. IP: Logged |
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Doc Ponch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted March 27, 2000 07:47 PM
JR, Dude, if you do a cycle now, let's say you do put on 10 lbs. of muscle and you lose 10 lbs. of fat, you'll still be fat. Something like 18.4%, if my calculations are correct. Then once you're off, if you try to diet then, all your gains plus some extra muscle will come off with fat. I'd get a more accurate fat measurement and if you're more than 12% fat, hold off your cycle til you get there. I'm a Dan Duchaine desciple and he's said, optimally, you don't want to go higher than 12% fat. But you've got to get down there first. If you're a carnivore by nature, the Cyclical Ketogenic Diet works pretty well, at least for me. I never could get lean with carbs in my diet, but the fat just melts off me when I'm on a CKD. It's not that hard a diet, unlike what some people say. Plus, there are quite a few muscle-sparing mechanisms which are activated by this diet and you can actually make good gains while losing fat. I know I have.
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:09 PM
DOC CHECK YOU E-MAIL IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:15 PM
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE CKD DIET IS. AND I THINK THE READING IS WRONG EVRYONE HERE AT WORK OR THAT I ASK IS LIKE WHAT!! YOUR 24%BODY FAT!!!THEN THEY LOOK AT THEMSELVES AND SAY. "THEN I MUST BE LIKE 80%BF" I DON'T LOOK FAT AT ALL I KNOW I HOLD ALOT OF WATER AND I'VE BEEN DRINKING A GALLON OF WATER FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW. SO MAYBE IT WAS ALL THE WATER. IP: Logged |
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Phucking Hungry Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:25 PM
The more water you drink the less water you will hold so it's not the water intake. If your drinking that much water and you still holding alot of water I'd look into your sodium intake. I bet it's high.Or your diet is just a mess. GOOD LUCK! IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:39 PM
MAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO , I HAVE MY FIRST CYCLE ALL LINED UP FOR ME IN A COUPLE OF HOURS, JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND I DON'T THINK I CAN FIND AN ACCURATE MESUREMENT FOR BF RIGHT NOW EITHER IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 315) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:43 PM
24 percent is a fatass. That's probably not an accurate reading, especially if you are 5'8 and 185. I mean, that would be like your whole body is just bones, organs, and fat. It sounds way off. I mean, look at yourself. Ask are you a real fatass? If the answer is an honest no, then you're probably more realistically around 15 percent. Plus the guy thought you were 10 lbs more. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 27, 2000 08:56 PM
O FUCKING K THEN HERE WE GO SOME GOOD ASS FEED BACK THAT I NEEDED . HELL YA I LOOK AT MYSELF AND SAY FUCK NO I'M NOT A FATASS I HAVE FORM. I SWEAR TO YOU MAN NO ONE BELIVES ME WHEN I SAY I'M 24% I KNEW THAT WAS BULLSHIT. EVEN WHEN I STARTED LIFTING AND DIETING CORRECTLY WAS I THAT HIGH. OK THE QUESTION OF THE DAY WERE CAN I GET AN ACCURATE REAADING. AND WHAT WOULD MY BODY FAT BE IF I WAS 185 WITH THE MEASUREMENTS I LISTED ABOVE. IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 315) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:09 PM
http://members.aol.com/webhealth/mfat.htm that's a cheap way to do it. I'd say it's accurate to within 3 percent, too. I have an 8 pecent bodyfat and I came in at 8.4 on that test. If you want a real accurate one you can get your doctor to check it... There are also scales you can buy that will check it for you. But I'd say that test would work. ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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Behemoth Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:18 PM
JR if you were 24%, you would already know you were fat as f**k!!! Using a tape measure sounds about as accurate as the weight height charts that the insurance companies dreamt up in the 70's. Get yourself a cheap set of callipers; they come with a wee book that will tell you how to use them. I guarantee they will not tell you that you anywhere near 24. However you could be in denial!!! Only joking!! IP: Logged |
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Cannonball Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:37 PM
thanks Amass this was informative, However, i think that this method may be off a little for those individuals who are naturally bigger boned. I am 5'10 1/2" and weighed in at 178lbs last week and my waist where I wear my pants is 35" and those calculations would say that my % body fat is currently at 20% which seems really high to me. I am confident that my bf percentage is not more that 15 - 16% tops. No flame just facts. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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A-mass Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 315) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:48 PM
yeah it says right on that site that the only 100% accurate reading is an underwater weighing test. I've always had a pretty low BF, so I've never really cared much about it and I don't compete. So I guess measurements is the least accurate, then calipers are more accurate, and underwater weighing is hte most accurate. I wonder where the BF scale comes in and how does it worK? ------------------ the alpha male IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 472) |
posted March 27, 2000 09:56 PM
JR, Before doing the cycle, get a more accurate measurement. Most gyms - probably the one you are a member of - will do a caliper reading - this isn't perfect but better than what you had done. I would advise - in fact highly recommend - that you do not start a cycle if you are over 16%. As was mentioned before, when you tryu to lean out after the cycle, you are going to lose some muscle as well, so why bother with the cycle? Matt IP: Logged |
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ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted March 27, 2000 10:06 PM
I just work my way down to 24% BF so SCREW YOU GUYZ I'M GOING HOME. to JR this guy can't be right. get it checked by caliperz and weigh yourself. if you have ANY muscle at all the guy is wrong. good luck and remember in the immortal wordz of JIM "there'z nothing wrong with being a large mammal" IP: Logged |
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THESAINT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 210) |
posted March 27, 2000 10:11 PM
IF YOU WERE 24% BF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GUESS. YOU'D HAVE DUNLAP DISEASE( YOUR BELLY DUNLAPS OVER YOUR BELT ) THE MOST ACCURATE WAY TO MEASURE BF IS HYDROSTATIC (WATER TESTING) THEY ALSO HAVE ELECTRIC RESISTANCE TESTING(THEY PASS A SMALL ELECTRIC CURRENT THROUGH YOUR BODY AND MEASURE THE RESISTANCE) BUT IF YOU HAVE A CALIPER TEST DONE BY A PRO. THEY WILL MEASURE DIFFERENT POINTS ON YOUR BODY AND CALCULATE YOUR BF THROUGH A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA. THIS SHOULD BE ACCURATE ENOUGH. IP: Logged |
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Platinum Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted March 27, 2000 10:15 PM
I did that test that A-mass said. I am 5-11 and I weigh 178 with a 31 inch waist. It knocked me right on with a body fat of 11%. I have been test numerous ways and always fall between 10-12%. That test is relatively accurate and would try it out as a starting point. If it says you are 20% you just might be 20%. Just my opinion. Platinum IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 17) |
posted March 27, 2000 11:21 PM
That site A-mass posted we used in college for wrestling. Coach wanted to know before he would let you lose more wieght. He had a 6% rule. We would then do it with calipers. Thats way we were sure what percent it was. Do you think that 1/4 of your total body is made up of fat. Think about 1/4 of your physical self. You would know. Run to GNC and buy a set of caliper - has a book that explains how to do. Think it is like $12.00. Then do the math cal. that A-Mass posted. Then kind of do a mental average. Your close as your going to get without going to the doc. IP: Logged |
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TSSA Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 73) |
posted March 28, 2000 01:09 AM
I would just cut some weight, besides wrist and waist is not accurite anyway, I would deffinately buy a caliper. and watch what you eat on your cycle, Thermodrene works well. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Deepsquat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 435) |
posted March 28, 2000 03:46 AM
JR what do your abs look like? One row? Two?If you only have one row you may very well be at 24%. Two rows at 15-10 all three rows 10% and lower is a good rule of thumb IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 330) |
posted March 28, 2000 03:54 AM
who cares. what i would do is 2-3 dnp cycles between steroid cycles. that will work in two ways. in one way it will burn fat, in another it will remove the dead steroids from the androgen receptors. besides steroids usually do result in fat loss. i don't know how but they usually do. do one cycle, then do 3 dnp cycles, then another 8 week cycle. you will be down to 8% by the end of it all. IP: Logged |
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JR Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted March 28, 2000 11:34 AM
god damm don't you guys ever sleep. much apprecitiation here. thanks fellas for all the support behind the post. what i say to the bf% is fuck that it has to be wrong. i just bought some hydroxycut to take and will keep you guys posted when i find out what my bf% really is. i say fuck the # 24 ain't shit gonna keep me from what is mine. and that's a stong body, strong mind, and a strong soul.
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NoLimits Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted March 28, 2000 11:56 AM
Deepsquat, that is a pretty good judge. I would guess that jr is close to 20 + %. A 35" waist is big for his size. Probably no abs showing... No offense JR... Cut your bf, cardio, cardio, cardio...You will be happy then... ------------ NoLimits IP: Logged |
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little_one Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2) |
posted March 28, 2000 02:40 PM
Wrist and waist measurements aren't accurate. The best way to determine body fat is submersion in water but, the caliper method will give you a good idea where you stand. Do they have calipers at your gym? They should be taking measurements from three sites and there's an equation used to determine your BF%. IP: Logged |
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