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Dwarfish One

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From:marquette, MI, USA
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posted March 28, 2001 06:21 AM

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Cycle will be:
1000mgs Test Cyp / a week
2 Anapolons ED

Clomid treatment afterwards.

I only weigh 5'11" - 170lbs bf13%, but this is my 3rd cycle. I know i am small, but at least i am honest!

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DCS

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posted March 28, 2001 06:39 AM

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are you saying you aren't going ot use any anytiestrogens while taking a gram of test? Only clomid after the cycle? That is funny. I feel bad for all you guys who have got it in your heads that lots of estrogen is good for you. At least it means more chocks for me.


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aahepp

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posted March 28, 2001 07:24 AM

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DCS hate to tell you but all the test in the world still might not give you gyno. I have taken 200mg/day and sometime 300mg/day of Suspension (harsh one for sides including gyno), which for the challenged comes out to be 1200mg/week @ 200mg/day and 2100mg/week @ 300mg/day. Guess what no gyno. So some people can take to upwards amount of test and other products and not worry about getting gyno. While other take 1 dbol and and gyno is there. So if the man has done upwards before hand without a problem, then why use them???


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1Mistake

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posted March 28, 2001 09:55 AM

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I did 600mg of cyp and 2-3 A50s a day for my first cycle-and got jaundice.No shit Drop the a bombs and throw in some Deca or even dbol

J


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 28, 2001 09:58 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by DCS:
are you saying you aren't going ot use any anytiestrogens while taking a gram of test? Only clomid after the cycle? That is funny

Do you know his body? Why is it funny? When I was using similar amount without anti estrogens that was also funny?


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jrodssb

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posted March 28, 2001 10:22 AM

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what's funny is that, you have a whole bunch of guys taking nova when they don't need it. honestly, if someone can get gyno from 250 to 500 of test or by taking 2 to 3 dbols, why use AS??? you're body is just no ment for that!! you're going to look like shit. keep your tits tight... you're look much better.
good luck!!
oh by the way-- dwarf, for what you weigh.. it's too much test. how long are you doing it for?? 52weeks straight?? just kidding with you!! not enough info bro!!

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strengthmonster

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posted March 28, 2001 10:28 AM

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I am the same - never had gyno problems at all (touch wood). Started off using nolva then ceased it and still nothing. It is a genetic thing although more common to get them than not.


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BigWh1tey

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posted March 28, 2001 11:40 AM

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Thats alot of androgenic drugs (i would throw in some eq, deca, or primo also) but i dont see it as being too extreme . As for the nolva discussion , it never hurts to have some(or arimidex) on hand but its not a given that you will need to use it .


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Spunky

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posted March 28, 2001 12:03 PM

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I went up to a gram last week on my current cycle and I have yet to use 1 anti-estrogen. My nipples got a little puffy when I ate a bad diet. thats not gyno though.


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Dwarfish One

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posted March 28, 2001 04:35 PM

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Thanks for the advice, and yes i do know my body. I was taking 1000mgs every 5 days of omnadren 250 with 40mgs of DBols ED, without a problem. But i am a safe person. I have 84 armidex, and 500 Canadian Novadex. So i think i am covered for quite some time. WHAT i meant was, Is this keepable gains. I know i will gain about 35-40 lbs, but will i keep 20-25lbs or none?

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DREXX

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posted March 28, 2001 05:43 PM

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I would only recommend 1 abomb per day that is still 1350mg per week of AAS for a guy that is only 170lbs with only 3 cycles behing him that is alot.

It's good that you have a bunch of anti-e's laying around.

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DCS

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posted March 28, 2001 06:14 PM

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Gyno is a probelm that slowly developes. You don't use anti estrogens at first and all that happens is that you gain fat in your thighs, on your ass and on your hips. THis starts before the gyno. The fat in these areas have more aromatase enzymes than normal fat, something like 40 times the concetration ( I don't have the study to prove this but if someone insits I can find it). With this fat, the next time you take the aromatizeable AS you get more and more estrogen, more and more fat with super cocetrated aromatase and a vicious cycle begins. Eventualy the gyno just explodes one day and overnight (this is how most chicks develope) you get it real bad. THis is just a real threat why ignore it. I am betting that at least 1 out of 2 of you guys who claim to be immune to gyno side effects will have it in the future and most likely in the near future. I am sure you will flame this a little (you ro macho for gyno right?) but I don't care, just remeber I told you so.


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the mechanic

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posted March 28, 2001 06:35 PM

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Sorry, but I too am one of the lucky ones who has never experienced any type of gyno symptoms. I have done many cycles over the years with very high test dosages, a lot of d-bol, anadrol ect. I have seen on the other hand someone develope gyno symptoms in the first week of a cycle. Everyone`s body reacts different to gear so i say if the guy knows HIS body, go right ahead.

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