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LEFTY3108

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posted March 27, 2001 11:54 PM

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i know i screwed my source fucked me with the nolva and all i have is clomid. im feeling very very slight effects of gyno and i dont know what to do. if someone can tell me how to use the clomid as an antiestrogen that would be great. dosage/how many days is all i need. thanks bros


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thefacelessballer

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posted March 27, 2001 11:59 PM

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if your cant get nolva.. try going to your doctor. tell him the truth and he'll probably help you out


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arnieswarzennega

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posted March 28, 2001 12:04 AM

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GO AWAY-

its M******R********* @Yahoo
posting under another name

[This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited March 28, 2001).]


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Spunky

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posted March 28, 2001 12:09 AM

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excuse me... clomid is an anti-estrogen, just not as strong as nolva.


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kingjohn

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posted March 28, 2001 12:12 AM

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FALSE INFO ALERT...

Clomid IS a mild anti-E. Check out drexx's post.

Oh yeah, if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, just keep your mouth shut and read.


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arnieswarzennega

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posted March 28, 2001 12:22 AM

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GO AWAY-

its M******R********* @Yahoo
posting under another name

[This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited March 28, 2001).]


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Curious George

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posted March 28, 2001 01:35 AM

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Arnie....I suggest you do a search under clomid my friend. Use the feature and type in the name, Macrophage69alpha. Please argue with him on this topic.

Clomid is a mild anti-est.

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Zeke_B

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posted March 28, 2001 02:03 AM

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http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/pharmacology/anti-aromatases-versus-estrogen-antagonists.htm

Take a look at this. This is an excellent
site. Here's a quote

"The other general approach is estrogen receptor antagonism. If a molecule binds strongly to a hormone receptor, but does not activate that receptor and makes it unresponsive to the normal hormone, then it is a receptor antagonist. Clomid (clomiphene) and Nolvadex (tamoxifen) follow this approach. These drugs are very similar structurally. They are both what are called triphenylethylenes, and are not steroids. The differences are relatively minor, but seem to affect an important characteristic of these compounds: drug metabolism."


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Superman420

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posted March 28, 2001 02:38 AM

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I've also read that clomid is a mild anti estrogen, but nolvadex is way stronger and more effective in combating gyno. Damn you don't have to get all pissed and talk shit to someone trying to giving advice.


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Keep it beefy

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posted March 28, 2001 03:18 AM

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you guys are all gay...clomid is a SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator), in the pituitary it's an E. antagonist, in other places it may have no affinity the the ER, and in other places, it can act as an estrogen agonist, displaying estrogenic properties...


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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 28, 2001 03:37 AM

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Clomid is mild anti estrogen IN BREAST TISSUE.


Clomiphene in the treatment of adolescent gynecomastia. Clinical and endocrine studies.

Plourde PV, Kulin HE, Santner SJ

Twelve boys, aged 12 to 19 years, with persistent gynecomastia were treated with the antiestrogen, clomiphene citrate, at a dose of 50 mg/day by mouth for one to three months. The mean breast size decreased by 0% to 36%, with only five boys experiencing a reduction of greater than 20%. Five boys subsequently required reduction mammoplasty. Levels of urinary gonadotropins, serum testosterone, and estradiol increased significantly during therapy. Since the ratio of testosterone to estradiol remained unchanged during treatment, the antiestrogen effects were achieved primarily at the level of breast tissue. Clomiphene citrate in a dose of 50 mg/day resulted in only small decreases in persistent pubertal gynecomastia and was not a satisfactory medical therapy for the condition.


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