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BIG HURT

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posted March 27, 2001 09:38 PM

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I have to report my experince with Ttokkyo's new 200 mg.cypionate.I started 3 weeks ago.Took one cc first week,no problems.Took 2 cc's second week,no problems.

Took 2 cc's,from the same bottle,on Sunday afternoon,and by Monday afternoon,My right ass cheek has swollen considerably and I'm in considerable pain.

Very hard to walk,have a slight fever,and the chills.Just started antibiotics,and taking acetominophen for the pain.I do not think I will continue using this stuff.

I'm not questioning my injection techniques either,they were by the book. I've been doing this for 14 years.The only time this has ever happened to me before was when I used Testoprim-D(garbage).

I believe this also happened to gettindiesel or someone else.I'm very bummed

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ultragainz

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posted March 27, 2001 09:41 PM

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must be dity like there sus

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rich197

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posted March 27, 2001 09:46 PM

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were all the shots in the same spot if so could be a problem. if not could just be dirty I heard something about putting it in hot water to help cut down bacteria but would cross ref that


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PsychoSkitz

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posted March 27, 2001 09:51 PM

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Why not do some further sterilization by filtering it with a sterile filter and then baking it?

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Broyden

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posted March 27, 2001 10:00 PM

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If the 1st 2 were okay, doesnt that tell you that the problem is not with the Cyp?
not flaming just asking.


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assbeater

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posted March 27, 2001 10:01 PM

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bump. that sucks!


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BIG HURT

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No,I do believe the problem is with the cyp.This has also happened to gettingdiesel.But I am stumped as to why this didn't happen the first 2 times.

And like I said,the injection was very sterile.

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Just_Grow

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posted March 27, 2001 10:14 PM

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can it be put in the freezer for a day or two?


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JohnnyD

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posted March 27, 2001 10:17 PM

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I have a bottle I just got my hands on today.
I'm still going to use it when I have a chance.
I have to see for myself.

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posted March 27, 2001 10:25 PM

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use cypro-200 much better
125 cyp blended with 75 prop
also watch your injection techn


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gettingdiesel

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posted March 27, 2001 11:30 PM

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I'm glad someone else is admitting this. I have taken 4 injections of 2.5 ccs and can barely walk for a week untill it's time for another injection. this is not Injection technique I am no rookie at this. I tried 1 cc in my delt and it blew up like a baloon. My ass and delt is hard as a rock. Amp is also experiencing this as well as my other training partner I have one shot left and I feel I need to switch over to another test. Any suggestions. is the T200 really that bad.


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Amp

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posted March 27, 2001 11:38 PM

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Hell yes this stuff hurts. I was laughing at Diesel and his other partner because of their complaining about the pain. I traded one of my eq200 bottles for some cyp200 by ttokkyo. I did 2.5 cc's on Monday, it stang for a couple hours then went away. Today it hurts like hell and can barely sit on it. Very very sore to the touch. I have never had a glute injection hurt before and I usually pump 3cc's of sust pain free all the time. There is something with this new cyp that makes it very painful. I'm glad I only have 1 bottle, Diesel stocked up on it.


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Amp

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posted March 27, 2001 11:39 PM

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Gettingdiesel - give me my Ttokkyo Eq back! My ass is hurtin!


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bissenmir

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posted March 27, 2001 11:53 PM

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I got that Ttokkyo 300 nanrolen(vet deca) and the inject is ok but nipples get sore. I think it's cyp. Exp. and date are printed on bottle.


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Beef It

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posted March 28, 2001 10:55 AM

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i'm tellin ya'll right now..start running your loaded syringe under hot running water for 3-5 minutes before injection and then inject very slowly and then massage it with a hot towel for a few minutes after...it makes a huge difference with the testanon...i don't see why it wouldn't work for the cyp also...


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ajc

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posted March 28, 2001 12:17 PM

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Why is it all these odd stories happen to be about Ttokkyo products? I'm seriously reconsidering using them. I'd almost feel more comfortable using Brovel.


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swolupdieter

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posted March 28, 2001 12:29 PM

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If you are getting sick than the stuff must be real. I have never heard of anybody taking the new cypionate from Ttokkyo. Anyway have you made any gains while on it.

Stay Hungry


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BIG HURT

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Yes,I'm making gains with it,but I'm also using Omnadren,Ttokkyo EQ and D-Bol.I guess I'll just switch over to Brovel for the rest of the summer unless I can get my hands on some Testoviron or Primoteston.

By the way,I took the shot on Sunday,today is Wednesday,still a little swollen,but the pain is subsiding.I will attempt to do legs tonight.

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Slopain

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posted March 28, 2001 03:13 PM

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Whats your shooting schedule do you mix oils in the syringe? What kind of dbol is it too? How many mg's of the cyp/week and how many of the omna/week?

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THeMaCHinE

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posted March 28, 2001 03:15 PM

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Never had any problem with Ttokkyo deca. Don't know about the other...

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BIG HURT

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Slo,
I've been on 4 weeks.I take my shots on Sundays.The first week was 500/omna,1cc Ttokkyo Eq.

Second week 500/Omna in one syringe,200mg/Ttokkyo cyp(1cc) and 1 cc of Eq in the other.

Week 3 500/Omna and 1/2 cc of Eq in one syringe,400/cyp,and 1/2 cc of Eq in the other.

Week 4 was the same mixture and schedule as week 3.That's where I've run into the problem.I just don't understand why it's affecting me now,3 weeks later,and not right away.

I noticed gettingdiesel and his friends are also having the same problem.Maybe there is just too much benzyl alcohol in the Test.

The D-Bol is Ttokkyo's 5 mg.Good Shit.I have 1000 10 mg also I'm waiting to use as soon as I finish with these.I have 9 bottles of the Test left.I think I'll give some to my training partners to try and see if they get the same reaction

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Slopain

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hmm So you don't cut the 2ml's of omna with 1ml of another oil based as is the common practice to cut the prop pain? I hope all goes well.

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posted March 28, 2001 04:00 PM

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Doesn't bacteria just multiply in hot water? I know it would inject easier.


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Bacteria isn't the problem - bacteria levels are in normal range. I have used the deca and the eq (of the injectables) with zero problems as have many other respected people on this board and others (you guys dont know the guys in the gym so I guess they dont count). The dbol and anavar are good as well, the new winny tabs have been in me for 2 days so Ill have to wait before commenting on them.

To the guy above comparing brovel to Ttokkyo ??? please don't do that again lol thats an insult to toke.

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quote:
Originally posted by Slopain:
Bacteria isn't the problem - bacteria levels are in normal range. I have used the deca and the eq (of the injectables) with zero problems as have many other respected people on this board and others (you guys dont know the guys in the gym so I guess they dont count). The dbol and anavar are good as well, the new winny tabs have been in me for 2 days so Ill have to wait before commenting on them.

To the guy above comparing brovel to Ttokkyo ??? please don't do that again lol thats an insult to toke.



Yeah...I know...but all this shit about Ttokkyo is concerning me. I don't hate anything bad enough to choose Brovel over it. I just started some Nor200 on Monday and my fucking kidneys already hurt. I said fuckit...I'm probably gonna get some Norma Deca from a friend of mine.


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Amp

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posted March 28, 2001 07:32 PM

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I've used the deca and am currently on the equipoise and cyp200. The cyp200 is the only thing that has given this reaction. Sounds like the stories people had when trying the testonon. Other than the cyp pain I have loved the ttokkyo products but I don't plan on using more of the cyp200 (well I will finish the bottle but I think I will use the whole thing next week and get it over with)


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BIG HURT

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posted March 28, 2001 11:18 PM

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Oddly enough,prop. pain doesn't affect me.I could shoot 10 cc's of Sust and not have anywhere near the reaction of this.

A friend of mine told me tonight that they didn't put any anti-inflammatory in it,so he said I should mix it.Another friend who used the Testonon had the same reaction I did with the cyp.

I'm wondering if I mixed in some lidocaine,if that would help.Anyway,the good news is,my guy is going to exchange the 9 bottles I have left for some Ara-Test.

I really hope Ttokkyo fixes this problem real soon,I love their stuff,and will continue to use it until they go out of business,that's just how satisfied I am with their products.

I have faith that they will get it right

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lol @ AJC

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