Well, there is no "magic pill," but INJECTIONS of pgf2a will add some serious size in only a short time.
Besides, cat, why would you take a protein supplement or creatine, or whatever... its going to make you "bigger" than if you didn't take it... But that's the EASY WAY. People that don't have the balls to take the serious PAIN of injections or PAIN from the injected meds will try to belittle those who do in order to provide themselves the comfort of having an excuess other than "I'm too much of a Pussy."

Now its one thing to do research on somethign and decide the risks to you outweigh the benefits, but DON'T COME ON HERE WITH THAT CRAP ABOUT IT IS WRONG TO DO ANYTHING TO PUT ON MUSCLE ASIDE FROM WORKING OUT. I'm sure EVERYONE who uses PGF2A (including myself if you didn't get that impression) busts their ass in the gym. People that use PGF2A are the ones who are seeking serious gains despite the PAIN. If you are willing to inject PGF2A, my friend, you DESERVE every inch that you put on your arms, delts, calves, or whatever. Same goes from AS, from synthol, from whatever else you use to help meet your goals...

I get so sick of little punks that come on here saying they take creatine or protein supplements and critisize others for taking an "easy way out." You are taking the easy way out. If you weren't a scared little bitch, you'd do it too.

Anybody can lift and supplement, but it takes a different kind of man who has the balls to inject 8x per day to meet his goal. Who is cheating?

-Stew

Na i'm just kidding!!! Top each his own its your body!!!!

Inject your SPINCTER with synthenol to get a better booty for all i care!!!

DO WHAT IT TAKES TO REACH YOUR GOALS. IF WE WANT TO BE REALLY STUPID, WE COULD EVEN SAY THAT WEIGHT TRAINING IS CHEATING BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU STRONGER AND MORE MUSCULAR THAN THE AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL. THEREFORE, YOU ARE ALTERING NATURE.

THOSE WHO DO WHAT IT TAKES HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO SO.

Among steroid/gh/synthol/pgf users (and all people for that matter) I think there are two types of personalities:

1. Dedicated mofo's who are willing to do it all to be their PERSONAL best. To me dedicated bodybuilding means strict dieting, busting ass in the gym, sticking ourselves all over the place, waking up early, not hangin out to spend time at the gym, spending big$$$$ on supplements, etc etc.

2. Guys looking for an easy way out. Not wanting to train or lift hard or eat right or basically give 100% to everything a dedicated guy would do.

We see these types of personalities in everyday life... for me at work especially.

Thats why I am the Boss here. hehehehe

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Jeff

PGF2a,gear and the rest is not for every body, so know one has the right to say we cheat or don't work hard in the gym.Don't pass judgement on any one unless you have been thier. Wether you are natural or not, dedication is a must.

1. Work hard. Spend $$$ on supplements. Eat as close to perfect as possible. Get the right amount of sleep... etc etc..

2. People who want to skip all that and cheat by injecting things such as synthol, pgf2a, steroids, insulin... whatever... so that they won't have to bust ass in the gym like group 1.

Truth is there is no group 2! You will not find one person who is willing to go through all the pain of being a pincushion and take all the chances with your body and not bust ass in the gym. The only reason that people are sometimes in group 1 is because they are affraid of needles, scared of the risks (which could be high or none), or just a general pussy. If there were no risks involved, NO ONE... I mean not one single person would choose to not have a bigger and more astheticly apealing body. Thus, if you are not jucin' or using whatever aid that is avaible to get you big, you are a PUSSY unless your reasons are that you are worried about the risks, or you don't have the cash. That is it.

So, lets review the points:
1. There is no group 2.
2. People that don't train (easy route) don't become pincushions (hard route).
3. If you are taking ANY supplement, you have an advantage over people that are not. Therefore you are cheating because you are doing something to help you get more muscular and not just working out.
4. You can not refute controlled scientific research with an article that somebody had written. Oh.. wait. That's another thread.
5. People can have a change of interest. Someone may juice then quit and not workout. But this does not put them into group 2 because while they were injecting, they were very dedicated to working out.

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Jeff

Even in such instances where two high performance sports cars are compared one of them having the same specs from the factory,using conventional oil and the other has been upgraded with high performance parts and using SYHTHETIC oil.

Stopping at a red light if the sport car using high performance parts leaves the other car in the dust, is it cheating? I think not. In this world of competition only the fittest survives.

If your workout consists of cardio vascular exercise and minimal weight training, almost any post workout drink will do. However, if you are a body builder with years of experience under his/her belt reaching a plateau, using steroid or any other chemical compound to achieve your goal is a matter of personal prerogative.

Different people use steroids for different reasons. Some use it to enhance their physique, to complement themselves overall. Others use it because their lives revolve around what they look like (usually the narcissits). Their body is all they have.

Conversely, some people don't use steroids because:

a) To them it is matter of morality.
b) They still have misconception about it.
c) They cannot afford it.
d) They are belonophobic. (afraid of needles)
e) The health risks outweigh the benefits.
f) They afraid of taking a risk and are just envious and generally accuse anyone, with a better physique than them, of steroid usage without proof or justification.

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Originally posted by Wombat:
--You probably still drink those old carb drinks 2500 cals a shot(haha) BigJohnston---How many powerlifters use synthol and/pgf2a if they do,why?--

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FIRST, I DRINK BLOOD MIXED WITH STEW'S PROTEIN. VERY LOW-CARB.

SECOND, A POWERLIFTER HAS MUCH TO GAIN FROM TAKING PGF2A OR AS, THOUGH SYNTHOL WOULDN'T HELP. IF SYNTHOL DID HELP, YOU BET YOUR ASS POWERLIFTERS WOULD USE IT.

AND AS FAR AS A BB WITH 15%+ BF GOES, IF THAT IS THE BF HE MUST MANTAIN TO GROW STRONGER AND GET MORE MUSCLE MASS, AS MANY POWERLIFTERS LEARN THEY MUST, THEN HE ISN'T AS DEDICATED AS THE GUY TOO AFRAID TO GAIN A LITTLE FAT TO GET BIGGER? DUDE, IT TAKES MUCH MORE DEDICATION FOR SOMEONE TO BULK AND THEN DIET TO LOSE ALL THAT WEIGHT IN EIGHT OR TWELVE WEEKS.