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bigc_02

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posted March 27, 2001 12:31 PM

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hey, i am new to this board, and i was woundering what you think about my 2nd cycle. my first cycle was just dbol and sust.

Dbol 30mg/ed weeks 1-4
Test 500mg/week weeks 1-10
Deca 200mg/week weeks 1-10
Primo 300mg/week weeks 11-15
Clomid 50mg/eod weeks 1-12
Clomid 100mg/ed weeks 13-15

does something like this even make since?
let me know
later
big C


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Mike80

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posted March 27, 2001 12:33 PM

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It looks pretty good. I it was me I would start the primo in week 8 and go till week 12.


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Just_Grow

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posted March 27, 2001 12:55 PM

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Looks good,don't forget the liver protector.


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aceguy

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posted March 27, 2001 01:00 PM

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The only thing i would do is up the deca to 300 or 400, thats just me, looks good. GOOD LUCK!!! keep us updated!!


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-Falcon-

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posted March 27, 2001 01:11 PM

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looks good....up the deca and start sooner on the primo.

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thefacelessballer

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posted March 27, 2001 01:19 PM

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maybe some more deca, but thats already been said


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bigc_02

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posted March 27, 2001 03:07 PM

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thanks bro's


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The_Iron_Game

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Oh Boy, yes everything looks great, looks great bro. WTF

Are you buying clomid for 25 cents a tablet or something? Why are you using it for the duration of your cycle and then only using 100mgs daily for 2 weeks afterwards?

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bigc_02

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hey, i get all my tabs really cheap, they run me $25 for 100 of any kinda tab i choose.

how would you suggest to use the clomid?

thanks big C


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kingjohn

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posted March 27, 2001 03:23 PM

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I would run the clomid after your cycle. I still don't get why people use it throughout their cycles.


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bigc_02

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posted March 27, 2001 03:25 PM

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so far the only thing i have really decided to do is go with upping the deca to 400mg/week... any other suggestions?

bigC


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BOXER10

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posted March 27, 2001 03:32 PM

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don't run clomid through weeks 1-12 your natural test is going to be shut down by your test. If you get sighns of gyno get some nolvadex or airmidex

ask Iron game for more specifics

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-Falcon-

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I agree....hold the clomid for post cycle!!!!

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bigc_02

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posted March 27, 2001 07:01 PM

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hey, won't taking clomid during cycle, won't it keep you from experiencing gyno and help with water retention?

later
big c


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Fonz

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
Oh Boy, yes everything looks great, looks great bro. WTF




Roid Rage IG? Hehe.....LOL

Godspeed


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bigc_02

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posted March 27, 2001 08:28 PM

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any more oppinions?h

big c


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jackfrost

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Clomid won't do much for the gyno, it might keep the nuts from shrinking much. If you can get your stuff so cheap, get up some arimidex for the possiblity of water retention and gyno.


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bigc_02

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posted March 28, 2001 07:53 AM

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thanks bros, i really appreciate all your help.

it's good to know that i can come here and get help. you have all been really helpful

big c


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cannons

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posted March 28, 2001 08:11 AM

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The clomid is not needed for the entire run. I would start the clomid 4-5 days after your last inject. 100mg ed week 1 then 50mg ed for weeks 2-3. I agree with everyone and you should start the primo sooner(8/9) should do it. A good rule of thumb is to use 2mg of deca for every 1 lbs of lbm. so you can figure out if you are using enough deca.

Good luck, keep us posted...

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bigc_02

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posted March 28, 2001 08:42 AM

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here is how i revised it

Dbol 30mg/ed weeks 1-4
Test E 500mg/week weeks 1-10
Deca 400mg/week weeks 1-10
Primo 300mg/week weeks 9-13
Clomid 50mg/eod weeks 1-12(keeps nuts active)
Clomid 100mg/ed weeks 13-15

let me know

big C


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 28, 2001 08:52 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by bigc_02:
here is how i revised it

Dbol 30mg/ed weeks 1-4
Test E 500mg/week weeks 1-10
Deca 400mg/week weeks 1-10
Primo 300mg/week weeks 9-13
Clomid 50mg/eod weeks 1-12(keeps nuts active)
Clomid 100mg/ed weeks 13-15

let me know

big C


I dont know who told you clomid at 50mgs eod will keep your nuts active. When androgen levels are high there is no point in using clomid as anything but an anti estrogen during your cycle.

If you want to use it as this purpose then get nolvadex or proviron considering you get any 100 tabs of anything for $25.

Week 12: Day 1 300mgs of clomid, Followed by 10 days at 100mgs followed by 10 days at 50mgs.

100 tabs of clomid for $25. Who makes them?

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 28, 2001 09:56 AM

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Something like that Fonz

If ya got time shoot me an e-mail


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bigc_02

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posted March 28, 2001 02:01 PM

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bump


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bigc_02

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posted March 28, 2001 07:38 PM

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bump it up one more time?


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DCS

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posted March 28, 2001 07:48 PM

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Don;t listen to anyone who says you don't need to use an anitestrogen. USe em!


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Just_Grow

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posted March 28, 2001 08:00 PM

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well if you have extra use it.


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crackerlinebacker

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posted March 28, 2001 09:21 PM

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Use the anti-estro when you need them. No sense in binding the weak estro to your receptors when you can keep test on them.

BigC

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Zeke_B

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quote:
Originally posted by DCS:
Don;t listen to anyone who says you don't need to use an anitestrogen. USe em!

Actually, no one says don't use armidex.
What people advise against is using Clomid
as an anti-estrogen because it loses it's
effect later to get your test going again.
Plus its a estrogen receptor antagonist.
These aren't as good as aromatase
inhibitors


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Mako the Shark

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So clomid loses its effect for restarting your nuts if you use it during the cycle? I had read an argument for using it during the cycle to try and prevent testicular atrophy or maybe at least lessen it. Is this wrong?

Also TIG: if you are using a test like sus250 that stays active for a longer period of time when would you suggest starting clomid? before or after about 2 weeks from the last injection?


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Zeke_B

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quote:
Originally posted by Mako the Shark:
So clomid loses its effect for restarting your nuts if you use it during the cycle? I had read an argument for using it during the cycle to try and prevent testicular atrophy or maybe at least lessen it. Is this wrong?

I think it will do nothing to keep your nuts
active during the cycle. Two things have to
happen for your body to produce natural
test. Test levels have to be low and
estradiol levels have to be low. Clomid
blocks the receptors that detect estradiol,
but with higher than normal test levels your
nuts are gonna be taking a break.


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