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nhbking

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posted March 27, 2001 03:12 AM

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or do u think 10(maybe 20?)mg a day is better safe than sorry with tits? people seem to say dont worry on only 400mg/wk of eq but isnt nolva only gonna reduce the little extra gains i might make w/ more water, which i can live without? if anyones got gyno from this dosage of eq please warn my paranoid ass. peace


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posted March 27, 2001 08:54 AM

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Bump I'm about to do an Eq cycle at about 500mg a week and I was wondering the same thing.


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freak of nature

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posted March 27, 2001 09:06 AM

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Bumpity Bump


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jakethemus

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posted March 27, 2001 09:33 AM

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Back up, Im interested too.

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wierdhappennings

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posted March 27, 2001 09:33 AM

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i didnt need it and i ran it at 600mgs a week. everyone is different. have it on hand.


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freak of nature

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posted March 27, 2001 09:44 AM

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What were your results like? Weight and strength gain, etc..etc..


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posted March 27, 2001 11:05 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by nhbking:
or do u think 10(maybe 20?)mg a day is better safe than sorry with tits? people seem to say dont worry on only 400mg/wk of eq but isnt nolva only gonna reduce the little extra gains i might make w/ more water, which i can live without? if anyones got gyno from this dosage of eq please warn my paranoid ass. peace
EQ is progesterone related. Nolvadex nor arimadex will have no effect. Save your cash.

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The_Iron_Game

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quote:
Originally posted by Your_Moms_Kneepads:

Eq is progesterone related


Sorry buddy but if it does increase anything then it is estrogen levels not progestin.

By trying to eliminate estrogen levels you will cause a a negative impact on IGF-1 and GH levels. Since eq doesnt readily aromatise at normal doses then the little possible increase in estrogen is not really going to be so severe that you should be worrying to much about gyno.

Bottom line, only the most sensitive of individuals should be concerned. It will not hurt however to have it on hand.

Peace


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posted March 27, 2001 12:13 PM

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For the last time eq is estrogenic!


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posted March 27, 2001 12:13 PM

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Estrogenic!


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posted March 27, 2001 12:14 PM

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estrogenic!


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nhbking

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posted March 27, 2001 04:15 PM

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estrogen is all ive heard too. i almost always agree w/ ymk, but why does he keep saying that EQ has progesterone properties?


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posted March 27, 2001 04:21 PM

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eq=estrogen-but besides that proviron is what you should use, my experience has been 50mg/day with 400mg of eq complements very nicely.

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nhbking

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posted March 27, 2001 04:24 PM

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any other opinions(not just correcting ymk)?


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nhbking

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posted March 27, 2001 04:40 PM

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so proviron beats nolva? is that the latest general consensus? thanks


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posted March 27, 2001 05:30 PM

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dont want to start a new thread, but anyone think i really should get some proviron? all the nolva vs. proviron posts are old as hell. thanks


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Hungry1

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posted March 27, 2001 05:51 PM

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EQ aromatizes to ESTROGEN. Geez, how many times must this be repeated.


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nhbking

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posted March 27, 2001 07:34 PM

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ok, eq=estrogen, nothing new
but does proviron=better than nolvadex?
thanks


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Hungry1

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posted March 27, 2001 07:56 PM

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Hey NHB, did you get the PRIDE 13 results yet?


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jocko

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posted March 27, 2001 07:56 PM

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As quoted in Anabolics 2000:
"The side effects of Equipose are generally mild. The structure of Boldenone does allow it to convert to estrogen, but it does not have an extremely high affinity to do so."
"Gynecomastia may also become a concern, but usually only among sensitive individuals or those venturing in high dosages."


I personally used Eq ( and primoteston and d-bol) for 16 weeks with no clomid or nolvadex during the cycle, but I was only shooting 300mg a week.


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jocko

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posted March 27, 2001 07:59 PM

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As quoted in Anabolics 2000:
"The side effects of Equipose are generally mild. The structure of Boldenone does allow it to convert to estrogen, but it does not have an extremely high affinity to do so."
"Gynecomastia may also become a concern, but usually only among sensitive individuals or those venturing in high dosages."


I personally used Eq ( along with primoteston and d-bol) for 16 weeks with no clomid or nolvadex during the cycle, but I was only shooting 300mg a week.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 28, 2001 03:42 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by nhbking:
ok, eq=estrogen, nothing new
but does proviron=better than nolvadex?
thanks

You cannot compare the two


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wierdhappennings

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posted March 28, 2001 07:05 AM

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up 18 pounds at the beginning of week 11. strenght went up considerably. at about week 7 things really started feeling lighter. now at week 11 the vascularity is just freggin awesome. and im pretty hard as fuck too. no sides whatsoever. pretty good stuff


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freak of nature

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posted March 28, 2001 08:49 AM

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Those are some kick ass gains! Hope I get good gains like that.


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nhbking

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posted March 28, 2001 03:38 PM

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yeah, pretty crazy night of results eh? i cant believe telligmans performance.


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pittbull2

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posted March 28, 2001 03:49 PM

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Hmmm 18 lbs on EQ thats not bad! So do we need proviron on a lower dose that 400 mgs or not?


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Hungry1

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posted March 28, 2001 06:01 PM

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NHB,

Silva is a god damned animal, ANIMAL!!! LOL, can't wait for it to play on Direct Tv.


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deify

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posted March 28, 2001 06:33 PM

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ran EQ at 300 mgs for 7 weeks... No need for anti-estro's and I'm sensitive.


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