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primetime

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posted March 26, 2001 08:19 PM

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Need some advice guys. I'm planning my FIRST cycle like this:

week 1-6 dbol 25mg/day
week 1-12 equi 300-400mg/week
week 1-9 test. 500mg/week

Now, here is where I need the help. Do you guys think I should do sust or test enanthate for the 9 weeks? I'm leaning towards the enanthate because i can get it cheaper and i'll see results more quickly. Though, I'll have to worry more about sides, esp. boobies on enanthate. Any input on my cycle would be appreciated also, esp alternative ideas on how long to take the dbol and how much (50mg/day too much?). Thanks


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ultragainz

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posted March 26, 2001 08:34 PM

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i say sus

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primetime

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posted March 26, 2001 08:36 PM

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thx dude, although you seem like only one that answers my posts! lol Is it because I'm a newbie?


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primetime

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posted March 26, 2001 08:41 PM

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btw, i'll ask again, would it be reasonably safe to do up to 8 weeks of dbol at 25mg/day? Seems like most people here recommend only 6 weeks.


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Future One

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posted March 26, 2001 08:50 PM

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If you're worried about side effects, are you prepared for them? Do you have Clomid? Nolvadex?

Personally (assuming assuming your stuff is legit) I would go with the Sus. Where did you get the idea that ethanate will give you better results? I think either will give you equal results, the diference that you will see them faster with Sus.

As far as your cycle goes, I don't think it's particularly good. It will stop working halfway through and you'll be taking stuff for the hell of it the last 4 weeks.

tell me what you got and I'll try to make up something that makes more sense to me.

BTW I think nobody responds to your message bcause nobody knows either, all the smart guys left, either for the pay board, or entirely, and all that's left is a few semi-smart guys (like me) and way too many newbies, but whatcanyoudo?

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thermo

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posted March 26, 2001 09:32 PM

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a wise man once told me test is test is test.


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ultragainz

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posted March 26, 2001 09:41 PM

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i would only have the d-bol up to 6 week but if i take 15-20mg then sometimes i take it up to week 8 max.....up its always at week 6.....

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apbt549

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posted March 26, 2001 09:53 PM

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hey prime you might get some arimidex i hear its the shit .for you test side effects and dbol


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primetime

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posted March 27, 2001 01:29 AM

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thanks for the replies guys. Future one... I didn't say that enan will give you better results, I just said that I'll seee results more quickly. I thought with enan you'd see results around week 2, while with sust around week 4?
also, I'm gonna have nolva and clomid, just didn't say i would take them.
If you have ideas of a better stack/cycle, I'd love to hear them, I'm gonna have, or i should say probably gonna have as I can get almost anything..., dbol, a test (sust prolly), and equi.
Why would my cycle stop working half way through, Future one?


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Just_Grow

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posted March 27, 2001 01:32 AM

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do the Sust.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted March 27, 2001 01:36 AM

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I WOULD KEEP THE CYCLE AS IS. I THINK IT IS PRETTY SOLID AND WITH THE RIGHT DIET YOU SHOULD SEE SOME NICE RESULTS. GOOD LUCK BRO

PS... GO FOR THE SUST

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primetime

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posted March 27, 2001 01:44 AM

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I think it is solid also, just FutureOne caught me offguard when he said it will stop working halfway through. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.


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GRENDEL

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posted March 27, 2001 04:01 AM

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SUST IS GOOD ENATHATE IS GOOD BUT. THEY BOTH WILL GIVE YOU GOOD RESULT BUT SAUCE HAS ALWAYS MADE RIPPED UP GOOOD LUCK

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 27, 2001 05:59 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Future One:
Where did you get the idea that ethanate will give you better results? I think either will give you equal results, the diference that you will see them faster with Sus.


Please read some more bro, you will see gains faster with sust over enanthate?

Enanthate all the way. Sust is the shittiest combinations of esters available IMHO.

Sust results will take you longer to notice, takes longer to build up in your system, takes longer to leave your system, carries less raw test mg for mg compared to enanthate and at the end of the day when peak test levels are reached increased estrogen and thus a whole host of other goodies will follow, water retention, possible gyno, increased bp and so on.

Peace

[This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited March 27, 2001).]


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bbigman2000

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posted March 27, 2001 09:07 AM

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Personally I prefer sust, 4 ester's instead of just one always seems better to me.

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BOXER10

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posted March 27, 2001 09:12 AM

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Iron Game are you saying that enth. has less sides than sust?

Peace BOXER10


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 27, 2001 09:38 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by BOXER10:
Iron Game are you saying that enth. has less sides than sust?

Peace BOXER10


No, I did not say that, I said once test levels have built up in the system then there is no reason why one ester over any other should have less sides.

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