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 Fonz, would you read this post please?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Hey man, you seem to have a really strong knowledge of the science of how this all works. So I would love it if you would answer this seemingly age old question. I have seen arguments from both sides in the searches and in recent posts, so w\o further ado, here it is: Does nolvadex cut into gains? thanks man. Later.     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1269 |
quote: Novaldex antagonizes the estrogen receptor. Therefore blocking estrogen from its receptor sites. Normally used with highly androgenic steroids. In theory, and I STRESS theory, Novaldex lowers both GH and IGF-1 leading to less gains. E.g. The difference between 18lbs and 20lbs gained at the expense of PROBABLY getting gyno. Dosage: 20mgs/day is optimal Proviron on the other hand attaches itself to the androgen receptor therefore blocking ENDOGENEOUS androgens. Co-administration of an androgen here is a must. Proviron is known as an anti-aromatase as it will block the conversion of androgens to estrogens. Never heard of proviron hindering gains. Dosage: 50mgs/day is optimal Hope that helped..... Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1269 |
I would use Novaldex at 20mg/day BTW.... Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
So basically I can take proviron w\ my cycle to stay relatively hard throughout the cycle, and still get decent gains? Also, proviron helps to inhibit gyno right? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 152 |
Yeah, but not as well. I've still gotten some gyno from using proviron (and a third leg straight for 3 weeks). If doing a highly androgenic cycle I would choose 10 mgs of nolvadex every day, starting at week 2 and running throughout your cycle. This amount will saturate the receptor and you'll be holding less water. Not to diss Fonz, but it really depends. I'd try 10 mgs/day though myself. Some people don't even need it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 540 |
I only use nolva when doing high androgenics like susp, or anadrol or dbol otherwise I stick to proviron and I am fine. ------------------ |
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posted March 26, 2001 10:54 AM