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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 10:53 AM

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completed my winny/eq/sos cycle about a month ago-started taking 400mg/lauarbolin in the week of my last sos shot-just running 400mg/week until I start my fina/halo/primo cycle for the summer-this fine correct-the decca will keep me more anti-catabolic. I'm not screwing myself am I.

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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 10:58 AM

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bump

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 11:03 AM

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The purpose of bridging is to allow yourself to maintain gains by keeping your body in an anabolic state, or rather both anabolic and steroids anti catabolic effects too. You should be using either anavar or primo depot for this purpose. The purpose of the anavar is that it does not have any negative effects on natural test production so you can fully restore your HPTA before going onto another cycle. Primo works in a similar way but at higher doses you will possibly experience problems restoring the HPTA (200-300mgs/wk should be sufficient. You are also going to use clomid to help start up natural test production?

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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 11:07 AM

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Iron Game-
won't the decca keep my body in an anabolic anti-catabolic state-I was going to use HCG and clomid at the end of my next cycle when I come totally off-also running nolva 20mg/day now to help with estrogen and test [production.

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deify

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posted March 26, 2001 11:11 AM

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Another Question onto the question. I am straight with bridging with 200 mgs primobolan for 5 weeks right? Then time off for 5 weeks after a 10 week deca based cycle. But the 200 mgs primo won't cut off my htpa correct?


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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 11:14 AM

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another question-if my hpta test is shut down from the 8 weeks decca-I will be starting halo/fina/primo right after so it would be suppressed anyways-I am just using the decca to stay anticatabolic. Would clomid eod throughout until the end of my next cycle help-with of course the usual boosting dose a few weeks after completion.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 11:16 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Jback:
Iron Game-
won't the decca keep my body in an anabolic anti-catabolic state-I was going to use HCG and clomid at the end of my next cycle when I come totally off-also running nolva 20mg/day now to help with estrogen and test [production.


Yes you can use deca but this wouldnt be as a bridge it would be as a continuation of your existing cycle. The longer you are on the harder you will find to make reasonable gains, otherwise everyone would gain indefintely on every cycle. By changing you are making it easier for your body to gain slightly more but it would not be as effective as stopping for 4-6 weeks and then starting the deca. If this is your second or even third cycle there is no real need to bridge.

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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 11:26 AM

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I guess bridging wasn't the word I was looking for-have been using the decca for about 3 weeks now-am gonna start my summer cycle may 1st-would I be better off stopping the decca and taking the month of april off-or just continuing with 400mg/week-starting my fina/halo/primo cycle and then restarting my test afterwards.

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posted March 26, 2001 11:32 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
By changing you are making it easier for your body to gain slightly more but it would not be as effective as stopping for 4-6 weeks and then starting the deca. If this is your second or even third cycle there is no real need to bridge.

Peace



yeah-I think I will take the month off an give my receptors a break-but since laura is so long lacting will it really even matter?

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'ORCHITIS'

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posted March 26, 2001 11:35 AM

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I'm with Iron Game. Bridging with deca basically defeats the purpose because it will shut down your natural test production. It could also make it tougher to gain well during the next cycle. Ok, lets say that you bridge with deca, and then run another cycle. When you finally come off you will more than likely crash like a mofo.Trust me, I bridged with winny in between cycles once, and when I finally finished the second cycle I crashed harder than I ever thought possible. I'm not saying that this is what would happen if you continue to bridge with the deca, but it has happened to me.

I am currently using primo at 400mg per week, and feel that I haven't lost a thing thus far. I only have a few more weeks til' I start my next cycle, and then I will bridge with primo again following this up-comming cycle. My main goal in bridging isn't to gain more mass, but instead to try & keep my body from reaching a catabolic state. Cortisone is a bitch, but anavar & primo can occupy cortisone receptors, thus keeping the catabolism of LBM to a minimum.

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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 03:16 PM

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so would it help to stop and take 6 weeks off before my next cycle-or would that be pointless because of decca's longevity?

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posted March 26, 2001 03:37 PM

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bump-need to figure out whether I should just take 5000IU HCG and some clomid and take the month off-scheduled date for my cutting cycle is may 1st-should I just stay on the decca and go right into my fina/primo/halo cycle and then load up on clomid/HCG when I come off


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 03:43 PM

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Yes it would be beneficial to stop for 6 weeks. Take the clomid 2 weeks after last injection of the deca, followed by 3 weeks of clomid 300mgs day 1, 10 days at 100mgs/day and 50mgs/day for 10 days. Total 5 weeks so you have one more week to remain off and then begin your next cycle.


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Jback

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posted March 26, 2001 06:59 PM

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yeah-thats what I'll do-thanks for the advice Iron Game.

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