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Starski

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posted March 26, 2001 05:39 AM

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Does Proviron interfere with your HPTA thus inhibiting test production?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that it
didn't mess with the bodies own test production even though I did have androgenic
properties. This would seem to make it a great med. for use after a cycle to inhibit oestrogen production and to give you some androgens while your clomid/HCG kicks you natural test in.

Am I on the right track or is it as bad as therest for inhibiting natural test. production?

Starski


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 06:28 AM

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I can not think of any reason why it should intefere with natural test production


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BigWh1tey

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posted March 26, 2001 11:09 AM

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yes it does


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 11:11 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by BigWh1tey:
yes it does

Care to elaborate rather than just stating it does. The average intake of proviron should not have any major impact on the HPTA


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BigWh1tey

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posted March 26, 2001 11:17 AM

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The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 26, 2001 11:36 AM

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Big Whitey, the question is "Does Proviron mess with your HPTA and if so is it just as bad as the rest (assuiming steroids). Your answer to this was yes it does. I am assuming you were answering his original question "Does Proviron mess with your HPTA" and you said Yes it does. Now let me elaborate on that article>


Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months.

These men that began the treatment were subfertile and were given doses of 100-150mgs of proviron. This is # 1 much greater than the average 25mgs-50mgs 'we' proviron users consume and we certainly dont use it for 12 months.

Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml).

After 12 months 44% had normal levels. Now remember after 12 months on 100-150mgs daily 44% were considered to be within normal range.

There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function.

That goes to prove my original answer.

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lawnsaver

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posted March 26, 2001 01:19 PM

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YEAH!>>>LOL

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