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 Clomid vs HCG for kicking the boys back in.
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| Author | Topic: Clomid vs HCG for kicking the boys back in. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 245 |
OK, I am a bit confused on this point. There seems to be 2 different schools of thought on different boards, or different written sources. One is to use Clomid after a cycle containing Test, waiting until several weeks after the last Test injection, then doing the standard 100mgs/day for a week, then 50 ED next week, 50 EOD the week after that. The other school of thought is to use HCG to do the same thing. Others even recommend doing BOTH. I am really confused on this point, and the reasons for the far different thoughts on this. Different resources (boards, books, etc.) seem to sort of state their own variation on the above options as a "given", without ever explaining the differences between them, which is best, when to use one method vs another, etc. Does anyone have a good explanation of these issues?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
well i personally think it all matters on how much you've taken..i'm currently running the cloms..after a sos/deca/dbol cycle and i'm doing it just like u said..but the HCG i believe r for those who are much more ruthless then I......CLoms work fun i belive. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
look at it this way HCG can be bought or gotten at a rejuvination clinic for real cheep plus is real and garrenteed to work. Clomid yea i have but i think it would be more usfull for me to help prevent gyno ......... just my thoughts best of luck | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 73 |
Here's my take on both of them from what I've learned. Please correct me if i'm wrong. This is only what I've learned from the boards and it seems to make sense. HCG kicks the bodies natural test into gear quickly, but only temporary and you can't use it for a long period of time. I think 2, maybe 3 weeks max. Clomid will kick start the natural test back permanently, but it takes a bit longer than HCG to get going. HCG is fast, but temporary. A combination of both is usually the best. You get the quick boost from HCG, then the Clomid takes over and makes it stay. I know Stewmeat posted some good in-depth stuff on both of these in prior posts. Thats where I learned about alot of this. I hope he rings in on this. SIZE | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 565 |
I've taken a gram of test a week before and used clomid/nolvadex to kick start my production and it has worked great-a lot of people forget about nolva's ability to help natural test production-I think it works even better with clomid. HCG is a pain in the ass and the timing is way to critical. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
bump | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 737 |
Clomid & Arimidex is the best combo for me. However, it might not be as effective for someone else. You just have to try things and see for yourself. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 130 |
Riker, You use HCG for three weeks, It is not temporary, you recover entirely and it has a mild anabolic effect. Maintain the nolvadex while on HCG. Use 1500 iu per week, One bottle is good for three weeks. The only hassel is it must be stored in the refrigerater after it is opened. Don't mess around if you can get HCG, It works. period. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
I live near TJ, so I can get HCG is I wanted. In fact, there are Docs that will store it for you ... you just buy some, go down once a week (or howver frequently you need), they inject you, you pay them, etc....... But I still get this sort of "polarized" view of things, one bro says "definately HCG" another "do clomid", is there not anyone, familiar with both, who can describe the benefits and drawback of each? | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 34 |
I could be mistaken here, but I thought HCG simulated the action of LH, thus inhibiting LH production even more than it already is post cycle. Clomid on the other hand STIMULATES LH production, going right to the heart of the problem. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I see HCG as being a band-aid. Yes it will raise natrual test, but that isn't the root of the problem post cycle. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
bump. Come on, someone has to KNOW the definitive answers and trade-offs on this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
There is no 2-3 week limit to the time you can use HCG. Doctors use it for up to nine months to treat hypogonadism. Just look it up on www.rxlist.com under chronic gonadatropin. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
Does Clomid fuck with your sex drive? And I heard it swells your balls, true? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
quote: Being off the juice is what happens to your | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
From what I have read HCG aromatizes very easily so timing is important as well as having Nolvadex or Arimidex on hand is important. Great question Riker. Hope some more vets add their input. V3 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
I mean, if someone could get Clomid, Novaldex, Arimidex, and HCG, and was doing Test in a cycle, or more specifcally: ***** Stats, 37 years, 5'9" 195 lbs, 9% BF, looking to gain 15-20lbs lean. Planned cycle (summary) EQ 14 weeks, TestCyp weeks 1-8, Winny weeks 9-14. First-ever cycle. ******* hehe so - come on "experts" - where the beef? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
Hcg only mimic the LH and is useful the first or second week after a Cycle because it don't help your body to restart his own production but only help your testes to return to their normal size and to restore your leydig's cell response. When u have the hcg inside u produce a lot of test but u produce also al lot of estrogen so is best to use an anti estrogen (Nolvadex, or Proviron), remember that is only a mimic and when the dose is out your test production is not restored. After HCG is the time 4 Clomid that don't mimic the LH but on the contrary help your body to restart his LH production that is exactly what u want. Generally si best to use it for 3 weeks 100/50/50 EOD. I hope that this will help u. Bye p.s. The LH is the hormone produced by the pituitary gland, under the signal of the hipotalamus, that stimulates the testis to produce testosterone. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
ok, ok, - what about doseage of HCG? The recommendations are all over the place..... |
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posted March 26, 2001 01:11 AM