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Cool Novice 
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i have just recently injured my shoulder. the pain hits me when i do shoulder press and incline. its right at the joint and it doesnt feel like a muscle injury. any advice on what to do? should i see a doc? i am at the begining of my 2nd week of sust/eq so i dont want to stop training now. vinnie     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 167 |
ow!!! go to the doc i am going i did the same thing  ow!!! ow!!! quote: ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
just got off similar injury, dislocated collar bone, worked through pain for couple of weeks for spring break. took week off now feels fine. but i would get it checked out | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
Yo Vinnie.... There are a few possibilities going on in your shoulder. The most common problem would involve the supraspinatus and the other related tendons of the rotator cuff. The supraspinatus runs from the scapula to the greater tubercle of the humerous. It abducts the arm. Tendinitis can result from increasing weight too fast or lifting too often without sufficient recovery. Muscle strengthens 3 times faster than tendons so as you get stronger resist the urge to hammer big numbers initially... let the tendons catch up. Another possibility is acute inflammation associated with calcified deposits, usually of the supraspinatus that can cause some serious pain. Tenderness is maximal below the acromium along the greater tubercle of the humerous. Gradually the deposits work their way to the surface of the tendon, produce inflammation in the wall of the subacromial bursa itself. The term "bursitis", which is often loosely applied to all such painful shoulder syndromes, is then appropriate. Less severe, chronic symptoms may also be seen with calcified deposites of the rotator cuff tendons. Here characteristic twinges of pain on abduction as they are compressed between the humerous and the ligamentous arch joining the acromium and other nearby bone. Pain usually begins at 60-70 degrees of abduction and persists until about 120 degrees as the bulge passes the arch. A less likely culprit would be the biceps tendon in the upper groove of the humerous. Injecting tendons is risky as they can form crystals that weaken the tendon and make rupture a possibility. I have had it done, but some areas are better rested. A bursitis is very injectible. Conservative care (whats THAT!? LOL) would include anti-inflammatories, ultra sound, electrical stimulation, micro current, ice and most of all....rest. Good luck my man. Ask away if I missed something. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 235 |
Mam gomo, You sound like you know your sH**. Can I ask a question. How long does it take for torn ligaments to heal in a knee and calf? I am in my mid 30s. Thanks. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
Hey hey Curling.... I don't know sh** about AS use, but I can help in other areas. That's why I'm on here.... to learn... and then give back. That's the law of the Universe, no? You give freely with no expectation and you recieve ten fold. I have gotten more help here in two days than I dreamed possible. GREAT forum! NOW... To your problem.... have you been diagnosed with ligament tears or tendon ruptures? Tendons hook muscle to bone. Ligaments hook bone to bone. One way to differentiate is to do a simple range of motion test. If you have tendon/muscle damage and your limb is moved passively (or without your help), it is not painful. Ligaments on the opther hand are painful on passive or active motion. A torn ligament may need surgery and never be whole again. A sprained ligament may just need physical therapy and rest for anywhere from one to six weeks depending on the severity. A ruptured tendon is bad news and could require surgery or extensive down time, where a strain requires PT and rest from anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. Sprain is ligament...strain is tendon. Tendon are 10 times stronger than ligaments. Where is your injury.... and to what structure(s)? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 291 |
gomo, I feel like I'm in my kinesiology class. Are you an athletic trainer? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
RoadRunner.. how are you my man? I am a Chiropractor who has lifted for 30 years in a serious way, but always natch. I do most of my work in the sports medicine arena, particularly with bikers, runners and folks in the gym (weight training). AS use is new to me but I am learning a ton here. Peeps have been kind. This site ROCKS. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 235 |
I fell on my moutain bike. Went down a steep grade and crashed on a big boulder. I feel pain in my calf, knee and ankle. The pain in my calf feels like a bone trying to come thru from the inside. My knee is about 20% bigger than my other knee. My arm got pretty scraped up but I have full movement. My elbow is pretty sore and swollen though. I am wonder if maybe I could just do upper body. They only thing that I don't thing I could do would be preacher curls because of my elbow. Appreciate the lesson in tendons and ligaments. Forgot all that from school. Would bad bruises on ligaments and tendons cause severe pain? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
Curling... a ligament sprain can be just as paiful as a tear. Debilitating! A tendonitis can be painful enough to bring tears to your eyes. All is not lost. Wait for the on site diagnoses, for the swelling to go down, and a clearer picture of the extent of your injuuries.... then what kind and how much exericse can be discussed intelligently. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 210 |
I had the same type of pain and it turns out I had a bone spur on the end of my collar bone. It hurt like shit to just raise my arm over my head. I had surgery on Feb. 20th and I've just finished rehab. Yesterday was my first real day back training chest. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 13 |
Gomo Since you have such a great knowlage I wonder if you can help me. My Question: | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
shit!!! you guys are scaring me. i hope my shoulder isnt too serious. i cant afford to drop out now. im on my second week and i gotta keep going. my shoulder is gonna have to wait. im gonna ice it for now. thanks for the info from everyone. vinnie | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
Marc...one of the problems with juice is that your muscle tissue strengthens three times faster than tendons do. So as your muscle gets larger faster and stronger faster, your tendons strength lags behind. Too much work and weight too fast leads to tendonitis. The older we are the more prone we are to tendinitis. If conservative measures fail, than a light corticosteroid may be the answer.(celestone) The problem with injecting tendons where they insert is that it weakens the tendon and makes you more susceptible to rupture at a later date. You never inject a quadricpes tendon or an achilles tendon. The load on them is too great. After an injection, crystals may form around then tendon making it weaker. Some docs will not do it....some will. The shoulder is often injected.... but right at an insertion is more risky. I don't know your exact problem location but a doc on site could set you straight I am sure. |
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posted March 26, 2001 12:13 AM