The reason I ask is because I have some Ttokkyo anavar right now. It can in it's bottle which was in it's shrink wrap shit with the seal shit on the bottle and it had the pamplet shit in it with the cotton and the pills were in a little bag inside. It looked as legit as could be, BUT, the shit was really dbol. I was popping like 6-8 per day, got gyno like a muthafucka. I sent the shit up to my boy in Maryland and it was dbol. I think that ttokkyo is trying to pull a fast one on us.

But, are you sure that the ttokkyo anavar is orange pentagons? I bloated up and got gyno like a bitch from them. This has never happened with the spa anavar.

I like your posts and appreciate your different views on things, they are actually refreshing to see a man with his own legit views, but leave your fucking attitude at home.

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If Cubano said it was dbol then it was fucking dbol! You don't need a fucking lab test.

Lab tests can be faked easily so they carry no weight anyway.

For the record, we know that Damian is a lackey for Ttokkyo. But I have never Cubano say anything bad about Ttokkyo.

Now I would also like to know whether anybody else has experience with Ttokkyo anavar.

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Originally posted by 2Thick:
I will back Cubano and say that he would not waste his time with BS about Ttokkyo.

If Cubano said it was dbol then it was fucking dbol! You don't need a fucking lab test.

Lab tests can be faked easily so they carry no weight anyway.

For the record, we know that Damian is a lackey for Ttokkyo. But I have never Cubano say anything bad about Ttokkyo.

Now I would also like to know whether anybody else has experience with Ttokkyo anavar.

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And why so defensive with DB?? He made no personal attacks on you and you come off at him like he insulted ya moms.. Seems odd.

I have seen a lot of the anavars, all are the same color - none are pinkish.. Either you got fakes, or your source pulled a fast on. I emailed DB and my mail went through - so why dont you email me (since you cant get through to DB) and Ill fwd it to him.

When will the lab tests be ready? I also have a "friend" in the states who will test the stuff its expensive as well, but he WILL give the results, especially if you paid for the tests - thats an EASY thing for them to do. Let me guess you didn't pay for them right? so he won't give them to you? At any rate e-mail me if you have something - I will post it for you if you ever get any legit lab work from your boy. Before you flame me for ASKING FOR PROOF - provide it than make your accusations - it doesn't go the other way around.

I have used it, and will start the 5mg's ox within the month - the anavar def. isnt dbol. Anyways email me if you got anything: [email protected]

2Thick - against a mexican vet company?? nooooo

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About your claim- I'm sorry dude but if this was any other person besides a "monitor" posting what you posted you'd get laughed off the fucking board...To make such a bold claim by saying ttokkyo is trying to deceive us by repackaging dbol as anavar without providing proof won't accomplish much except to confuse people. All I am suggesting is if you're going to say stuff like this you should have the proof to back up your claim. Also, it may help if you posted more info- like "hypothetically" what all were you cycling- just anavar? And if the tabs were tested, exactly what mg dosage did they test out to be? I'm not saying it's impossible for Ttokkyo to make a mistake, but it's highly improbable that they would try to "deceive" us by selling one thing as another.

I know a lot of people who use Ttokkyo's products (I know a lot of people who use gear period) but your complaint is news to me. Do you know how many female fitness competitors in my area (Calabasas, Woodland Hills, Canoga Park, Northridge, etc...Northern LA County is the mecca for fitness chicks) are using Ttokkyo oxandrolona? A lot. If TT oxandrolona was dbol we'd definately be hearing about it here in So Cal.

If I remember correctly anavar 5mg tabs from Ttokkyo has recently been stocked on the shelves. 6-8/day = 30-40mgs/day for how long before you started getting gyno?

Also the tabs looked like the Ttokko Labs dbol?

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So he was taking between 12.5 and 20 mg of anavar/day ??? and if it was the dbol it would be a max of 40mg of dbol? I just dont see how thats possible considering his thread where he would be doing doses of anadrol/dbol in higher doses. Im sure he isnt lying but something does smell a bit here??

This is cubanos next cycle thread for reference: https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/03-2001/054204.html

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But like 1Mistake said, if you are "known" in this business your word carries a lot of weight- doesn't necessarily mean you work for the fucking company though...I've had oppurtunities to meet with the owner's of Ttokkyo, Brovel, Tornel and I know Denkall's 2 main distributors for Baja & Mexicali...It's amazing how much influence a 22 year old dude (now 27) can have on companies if you know what the f**k you're talking about.

If it seems like I am a die-hard Ttokkyo fan it's because I know how some Mexican pharmaceutical companies operate (extremely shady ethics) and I know that Ttokkyo is totally the opposite. And besides (I hope I'm not posting too much info here) the damn owner of the company uses his own products and makes his employees use them as well before they're released...Ahh.. Only in Mexico could you find such a job! The company does more shit to ensure the quality of their products- stuff that never reaches the "boards"- like when the rumors of their testonon being "dirty" got back to Ttokkyo they re-tested certain testonon batches (batches from Tijuana, Guadalajara, Mexico City & Nuevo Laredo) with Mexico's Ministry of Health and all came back with minimal bacteria counts- well below the amount that is allowed by HUMAN PHARMACEUTICAL STANDARDS. Ttokkyo has also tested many of their competitor's products (including some products available in other countries) and has lab tests that would put all of you "european gear is the best" in check. Or what about Ttokkyo being contacted by RxMuscle Magazine and was told if they bought space in their magazine, RxMuscle would dedicate an entire issue showing how GREAT Ttokkyo's products are without even testing them...and guess what? Ttokkyo declined their offer because they don't need that type of exposure. Or how about the other pharmaceutical companies in South America and even Mexico who have contacted Ttokkyo and are interested in registering Ttokkyo's products as their own and just jacking up the prices a little? What's going to be funny is when these new products come out people are probably going to claim one is better than the other not knowing they're coming from the same fucking company! Or Ttokkyo contacting SAGAR and asking if Loeffler registered their Oxymetholone or Sust clone- and finding out the shit is not registered- basically it's being sold illegaly in Mexico. Btw, SAGAR & Mexico's Ministry of Health both have websites and their contact information (email addy and phone number) listed on their website, if you take the "S.A.G.A.R. #" off Loeffler's Kanasteron and Testo-IV you can check for yourself to see if the stuff is registered. And don't think I'm anti-Loeffler either- my "friends" are using their 25mg dbol tabs with great results.

Sorry for the long post (rant)... I'm on a Ripped Fuel high right now.

Peace

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Originally posted by Damian Borleone:
Ok, here we go again... 2Thick- first off what's a fucking "lackey"? Are you still claiming I work for Ttokkyo or something? Get real dude or get a fucking clue. Secondly, lab tests can be faked- sure, but if Cubano has one showing his anavar was dbol wouldn't you believe it? Anyways, why are you even responding to this post? IT IS WELL KNOWN on this board that you are anti-ttokkyo products & anti-mexican products in general which I think is quite odd considering you have never even used mexican gear. Dude- if you slang gear in Canada and don't have easy access to Ttokkyo's stuff- MOVE!

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First off, I never said you worked for them, so get your facts straight before looking stupid. Second, use a dictionary and look up the word "lackey" before you make try to reply.

lackey = a person who tries to please someone in order to gain a personal advantage

You are really digging your own grave with groundless accusations. I am not anti-Ttokkyo, I am against most products from Mexico. There is a big difference.

Finally, if I were to use gear I could get Ttokkyo easily in Canada, so stop with the ignorant comments.