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 Just Nolva while cutting:bullshit?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Hi.I have an idea...dunno if already told before frome someone.... Since nolvadex downs your estrogens levels,what about using it while off roids,for cutting? We know estrogens make us fatter...If you take Nolvadex will you be able to cut better and easier?Or is it just a bullshit from my twisted BRAIN?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1022 |
I've heard of using proviron throughout a cycle to harden up, but not sure about the nolva. as for just that and nothing else... I'm one of those people that likes to throw many things into the cycle and then play with the doses to see what reactions I can get/see, so I'm a bad one to comment. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1091 |
Nolvadex does nothing to reduce estrogen levels in the body. It only blocks some of it from binding to receptor sites in breast tissue. If you want to reduce estrogen levels in your body, you will have to use a drug like Arimidex or Proviron. As far as Arimidex helping you lost bf, I have never tried it, but in theory, I think it would reduce bodyfat levels. I asked this question some time ago, but nobody really had any reaction. -TG | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2810 |
Nolvadex may work to a certain extent but you must remember a few studies have shown that supressed estrogen will result in a reduction in IGF-1 levels also GH levels. Remember most hormones are interrelated so if you do something that will effect one or more (using tamoxifen, which will prevent estrogen from binding to the er) then you may have effect others. The solution? Using test which will prevent this IGF-1 reduction. ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2810 |
Found it: Estrogen and GH/IGF-1 It is also suggested that the aromatization of androgens to estrogens in men plays an important role in the release and production of GH and IGF-1. This was evidenced by a 1993 study of hypogonadal men, comparing the effects of testosterone replacement therapy on GH and IGF-1 levels with and without the addition of tamoxifen[v]. When the anti-estrogen tamoxifen was given, GH and IGF-1 levels were notably suppressed, while both values were elevated with the administration of testosterone enanthate alone. Another study has shown 300mg of testosterone enanthate weekly (which elevated estradiol levels) to cause a slight IGF-1 increase in normal men, whereas 300mg weekly of nandrolone decanoate (a poor substrate for aromatase that caused a lowering of estradiol levels in this study) would not elevate IGF-1 levels[vi]. Yet another study shows that GH and IGF-1 secretion is increased with testosterone administration on males with delayed puberty, while dihydrotestosterone (non-aromatizable) seems to suppress GH and IGF-1 secretion, presumably due to its strong anti-estrogenic/gonadotropin suppressing action[vii]. All of these studies seem to support a direct, estrogen-dependant mechanism for GH and/or IGF-1 release in men. It is difficult to say at this point just how important estrogen is to IGF-1 production as it relates to the promotion of anabolism in the steroid using athlete, however it remains an interesting subject to investigate. |
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posted March 25, 2001 12:31 PM