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cheesePuss

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From:Dunwoody GA USA
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posted March 24, 2001 10:24 PM

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What's up guys. I've never juiced before and I've never used pro-hormones either....I'm 23 5'10 220 17% body fat. Right now my goal is to be around 230 with 8-10% body fat. Do you think I should try pro-hormones first or not waste my time and hit the real shit. I was thinking of trying like impact 250 or one of the Mas Quantities stacks. Thanks in advance


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ultragainz

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posted March 24, 2001 10:25 PM

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lol bro try the juice

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Osiris

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posted March 24, 2001 10:34 PM

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The whole point of pro hormones is that the break down to different adrogens. So in a small way they are steroids. Unfortantely, they break down percentage wise to very little actual male hormone, if your lucky maybe 5% if not less. So the amount you would have to take, not to mention the number of times a day to keep the levels even in the blodd, would be incredibly expensive. It would be much cheaper to use anabolic steroids, because in the in you are having the same effect.


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egoman

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posted March 24, 2001 10:44 PM

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stay with the juice


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ironbarbarian

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posted March 24, 2001 10:44 PM

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try the real shit. dont toss your money on those shitty pro-hormones.

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littlearnold1069

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posted March 24, 2001 11:07 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by egoman:
stay with the juice
he can't STAY...he hasn't even started yet..but i would go with gear...

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FirstTimeUser0001

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posted March 24, 2001 11:15 PM

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Do the prohormones... j\k. heh.

but for reals, make sure your diet, water, workouts, and sleep is in tune. After about a month of everything else solid, if you arent getting where you want, do the juice.


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plifter

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posted March 24, 2001 11:19 PM

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Don't waste your money on prohormones. I've tried them and all they did was worsen my gyno.


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cheesePuss

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posted March 24, 2001 11:29 PM

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Thanks for all the info......Now I gotta see if I have balls enough to poke myself in the ass with a pin lol....you guys are awesome......I usually read the mags for info.....what bullshit....the pics are great for motivation....but they should include more info on gear....how to do it right and all that......Anyway. You all really know your shit.....this is where it's at!

Thanks!


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ELOH

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From:CYDONIA, MARS
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posted March 25, 2001 12:22 AM

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YOU DONT HAVE TO DO AN INJECTABLE...AS WE ALL KNOW YOU CAN DRINK WINSTROL....LOL......SO TRY SOME OF THAT FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE AT 50MG/DAY....BUT IT WILL COST $$$$$$>>>>.YOU CAN ALSO TRY SOME A-50(DAMN THINGS ARE HARSH ON YOUR LIVER THOUGH)


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Zeke_B

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posted March 25, 2001 12:46 AM

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The amount of prohormones required to get
results would put you at more money and
more side effects than injectible juice.
As far as the pin thing goes, once you get
over your fear, it's really no big deal.
If you do decide to give prohormones a try,
I recommend some delivery system other than
capsules. Nasal, dermal, or sublingual are
better bets. I've tried Pinnacle poppers.
I experienced noticable strength gains from
the first day...but that was it. I never
got much stronger and I actually lost most
if not all of it when I got off.


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primetime

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posted March 25, 2001 12:56 AM

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If you read the mags for info. (like MUSCLEMEDIA, FLEX, IRONMAN, etc..) of course they are not gonna have much info. on steroids because all they really are are supplement comapany catalogs where they HYPE (big time) their noneffective (or mildly effective), shitty, waste of money supplements.


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Caduceus

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posted March 25, 2001 01:08 AM

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Look I'm all for the juice but if your 220 and want to gain 10lb and lose 9% BF, it sounds like you can do that naturally without either. Now everyone has a platue that is just impassible. I reached it when I was 20 and I stayed there until I was almost 22. Where you can't gain muscle regardless of what you do. If you're at that point then yes do steriods. Prohormones actually convert into certain steriods in your body but the conversion rate is so shitty that you end up spending 10 times the money and only get half the gains. Hope this helps Cad


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ironbarbarian

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posted March 25, 2001 01:18 AM

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IF YOU DECIDE TO DO GEAR, YOU WILL NEED TO LEARN HOW TO POKE YOURSELF. THATS THE ONLY WAY TO GET BIG, DONT DO ONLY ORALS, IT WILL SCREW YOUR LIVER BIG TIME.

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Caduceus

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posted March 25, 2001 01:22 AM

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Poking yourself is easy, just don't do it with an 18 gauge like i did my first time. I've walked mayby 15 people through it an all have said afterwards. "Wow that was fucking nothing!".

[This message has been edited by Caduceus (edited March 25, 2001).]


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bbigman2000

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posted March 25, 2001 10:15 AM

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Bro, dont waste your hard earned dosh on that rubbish, I spent fortunes, before i finally took the plunge, then wondered what all the fuss was about, sticking yourself is easy and relativley painfree, just follow the proper procedure and go for a first stack of perhaps deca and oral dbol/naposims, that way you will only have to shoot twice a week and the deca will go in easy with the 1" pin which is very easy to put in, and totally painless.

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cheesePuss

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From:Dunwoody GA USA
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posted March 25, 2001 12:07 PM

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Thanks again guys...but I guess Cad is right. I'll keep training hard as shit / and eating alot of chicken and rice lol and I'll see where that takes me. Then maybe if I feel ready I'll try a deca / d-bol stack kind of like the one in the 1996 anabolic review for novices

Thanks again bro's for all the info.....

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drnknphool

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From:SLC, UT, USA
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posted March 25, 2001 12:16 PM

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Where can you get Deca or Cipionate?


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ORGANON CANON

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From:Canada
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posted March 25, 2001 12:24 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by drnknphool:
Where can you get Deca or Cipionate?

Usually at GNC. Also, most police stations carry a wide variety, just walk in and ask!


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