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 DNP!!!!????
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Novice 
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Can i get dnp in sweden? Wich brand How much is it??? How long can you use it?    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 115 |
Didn't all those warning signs scared you one bit? So you rather risk your life than do diet/cardio and ECA?  | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2016 |
I have done dnp, and have seen many others. I think the dangers are overated, as long as th eperson using it is not an idiot. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1022 |
it is unpleasant, but not life threatening as long as you are careful with the dosage and getting water in you and stuff. ------------------ I'm harder than Chinese arithmetic. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2078 |
"Can i get dnp in sweden? Wich brand How much is it??? How long can you use it?" Use the fucking search man.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1346 |
spunky has roid rage...lol | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: Big emphasis on the "idiot" part....... BTW, ECA is good, but DNP is 20 times better. Godspeed | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2807 |
There is so much ignorance on this board lately. "So you rather risk your life than do diet/cardio and ECA?" Everyone who uses dnp automatically risks there life? Cardio and eca are better than DNP? Come on man these are basic things. JuicySweede if you need any help or information e-mail me. Peace ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2235 |
The more I read on this shit the more I'm thinking about trying it. I've done a lot of reading on it and I'm thinking about trying a 7-10 day cycle at 400/day. Is this shit expensive and or illegal to order? Later, Green | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: Green, come on......you should know these things.... but, in case I'm wrong: 1. It is illegal for sale for human consumption. 2. I think if you do a cycle, you'll love the results. As a tidbit, while Clen and ECA raise the metabolic rate 3-5%, DNP RAISES IT 50-75%. You do the math...... Godspeed | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2235 |
Fonz I was figuring that the laws are a lot like ordering fina implants. You can have them but you better have a good reason why if you get caught. What does an average cycle cost? Later, | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: Well, you're probably right about the Fina analogy. In as far as the price is concerned..... 300mg cpas go for $1.75. Using 600mg/day for 7 days on/7 days off is 14 caps. Total=$24.50 Thats for 10-15lbs of fat lost in those 14 days. Pretty economical if you ask me. Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 400 |
Fonz Is there ANYWAY to combat an allergic reaction or to do a test to see if you are allergic to something in particular? The reason i ask is because i had a bad reaction after i took DNP once before (had reaction on second cycle). Im not COMPLEATLY sure if im allergic to the DNP cuz i was taking many other things at the same time. I fucking love DNP and i want to take it again, but i dont want another reaction (maybe i'll just have some prednisone on hand and rough it out!). Thanx, all this DNP it take is making me fiend for it again. Im a jealous fuck! | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2235 |
Fonz you're kidding right? $25?! HOLY SHIT that's dirt cheap. 10-15lbs of fat??? [This message has been edited by Green (edited March 24, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: Big Rand, I don't have a clue about the allergic reaction thing. But just don't use prednisone. Not worth it. Just test out the DNP for one day before you do a cycle to see if you get an allergic reaction. Pretty much all you can do. Green, my source doesn't sell DNP to US customers. He is US domestic though. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 204 |
MAN DO I WANT TO TRY THIS STUFF! Now if only I could find out how to get some... ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
I was wondering what are the side effects of DNP ? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1022 |
quote: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/bachs/dnp.htm that site will answer all your questions except where to get it ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/bachs/dnp.htm that site will answer all your questions except where to get it [/B][/QUOTE] That article is the article I always recommend to newbies. Very concise. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 111 |
Guys can women do DNP too. I thought I read somewhere that women can get some eye desiese. Anyone know for sure ? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1022 |
quote: they have a higher chance to getting cataracts from it. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: In the studies I've read, women have a 1% chance of developing cataracts if DNP is used. HOWEVER this can be negated with the use of certain supplements. Men do not have to worry. www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/bachs/dnp.htm explains it very well concerning what supplements to take while on DNP. Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 689 |
Some people have had success using a histamine blocker when they show an allergic response to DNP. There is no scientific evidence to link the administration of DNP with the occurrence of cataracts. giantset [This message has been edited by giantset (edited March 24, 2001).] [This message has been edited by giantset (edited March 24, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: Sorry to burst your bubble but thats WRONG!!! There are a quite a few cases of women getting cataracts through DNP use..... Godspeed | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2235 |
After reading that article I don't know..... Sounds a bit to scary for me. Not to mention I'm a computer nerd and work around people all day. I don't think I can get away with looking like a wet towel all day long. It truly sounds intriguing to me but sounds too hard to make. Later, Green | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 689 |
Hey Fonz, what was the national occurance of cataracts in women at the time that study was done? I'll give you a hint, it was higher than the percentage of women that developed cataracts in the case study. If we now draw any conclusion from this study it would be that DNP actually decreases a woman's chances of developing cataracts. Since no men developed cataracts we could also conclude that DNP decreases a man's chances of developing cataracts. We both know that that is probably not the case but I hope you see my point. Make sure you read these studies carefully before you draw conclusions. The main danger in using DNP is dehydration, plain and simple. giantset [This message has been edited by giantset (edited March 24, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 124 |
Hey green, I'm in the same boat here. I do tech support and I'm around people all day that probably don't even know what working out is. It would be kinda wierd to just walk up one day and be drenched. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1804 |
Actually, FONZ you might want to take a little more time to look over the data, cause it appears that GIANTSET is correct. The incidence of Cataracts among DNP using women was 1% the SAME as among the general female population- it seems to be a spurious correlation. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: YES, I READ THE DATA. AND I ALREADY KNEW THIS. BUT THERE STILL WERE DOCUMENTED CASES. RIGHT? You should read the cases in the 1930's-50's when Dinitro drugs were OTC. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
Question: I'm 4 weeks out from starting my Spring shows. I'm 5'7" 175# and 7%BF. If I try dnp as a first time user can i get results from 300mg a day? I'm very lean now but want to hit 3%. I might be able to do this with my very clean and boring diet, cardio and my special supplements.. Eq., Winny, Primo and clen. What do you think? I just want to jump start these last few % of body fat to melt off. Thanks, kdtl61 | ||
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Novice
Posts: 2 |
I need to read over the rules of the board, but I am new and I am sure that I will learn in time  [This message has been edited by macrophage69alpha (edited March 24, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1804 |
FONZ, yes there were documented cases of women with cataracts who were also taking DNP- There are probably documented cases of women with cataracts who were also eating spinach everyday. there is no correlative data between one and the other- they are both spurious connections. PEACE ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1022 |
wasn't there a member awhile back that was seeing yellow spots and he was taking in a lot of DNP and someone speculated that the dnp was getting deposited in his eyes or in/on his cornea? maybe it is along those lines that cataracts result, the reaction with the dnp in extreme doses. hell if I know, I just know I've never had problems with it other than being really hot. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: I swear MACRO, you never give up........arghhh!!! But, I'd hate to be the woman who got cataracts from the DNP. Spurious or not, she still got them. The moral of the studies is that she wasn't using ANY of the supplements needed for the elimination of any possible sides. If you take them, then the woman/women in question have pretty much nothing to worry about. Godspeed | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1804 |
FONZ, I really dont understand you frustration, I am merely pointing out that your conclusions were not based on the evidence. I was not saying that taking precautions based on the possibility was a bad Idea, quite the contrary. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
quote: This is cracking me up....LOL I was kidding Macro, no harm done. Just being my humorous self...Hehe Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1056 |
Looking for an edit! Bump Mass Monster | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2235 |
Fonz and others what should I expect from a 7 day cycle at 400mg/day? I'm just going to test the waters a bit with a lower dosage to see how I react to it. I'm also on a gram of sust and 400 eq. (well starting Monday). Is it cool to throw it in? I'm up to 100mcg. (starting to tapper down) a day of cynomel and I'm not noticing what I thought I would. Thanks, Green for those that don't know I have 3 cycles under my belt. I'm 24 6'3" 230lbs and about 20%bf (roughly...started at 30% not too long ago).
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 400 |
Dont worry about cateracts cuz there is nothing that PROVES THE DNP CAUSED IT, and DNP is soluable in fat (it will collect in the whites of your eyes). As far as my allergic reaction, i did a a 200mg day 16 day cycle (sucked) and a 400mg day 7 day cycle with no problem. My last cycle was 600mg day for days 1-2 and 400mg day for 3-6 then bam i swelled up like hell. There was no choice but to use prednisone. My damn hands were about twice the size of normal and i couldnt close them (same story as with all joints). Maybe it was the 600mg or the pyruvate i was taking, i dont know, maybe ill give it a shot, but i might need the prednisone on hand incase i swell up again (i dont want my esophegeous to close, which it would have done if i didnt take the Pred). Thanx for the replies Fonz and Giantset (and whoeverelse if i missed anyone). 8-) | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
I've never tried DNP though I may eventually one day...I lost 16 lbs in 45 not sticking too close to a diet just on a ~200 mg/~1600 mg diet of e/c. Not to shabby considering I only started at 176...not the point of this though. You mention that DNP will buildup in one's eyes. I find this very interesting. I have used LipoKinetix before at 8-10 pills a day plus ephedrine and all that...well anyway, after about 3-4 days on the shit I noticed that all incandescant white light turned very distinctly yellow (white lights looked like car foglights). I eventually went off of it due to problems w/ becoming overaggressive, losing strength, sugar cravings, depression and irritability (never had a drug that sucked so much). Roughly 3-4 days after last dose the yellow lights went away. The only other drug that I both started and stopped at around the same time was intranasal androdiol. I realize that lipo- is not the same chemical as DNP, however, they supposedly do operate using similiar methods...I wonder if DNP also causes this white incandescant light turning yellow sort of thing? --Jeff | ||
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Cool Novice
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I've never tried DNP though I may eventually one day...I lost 16 lbs in 45 not sticking too close to a diet just on a ~200 mg/~1600 mg diet of e/c. Not to shabby considering I only started at 176...not the point of this though. You mention that DNP will buildup in one's eyes. I find this very interesting. I have used LipoKinetix before at 8-10 pills a day plus ephedrine and all that...well anyway, after about 3-4 days on the shit I noticed that all incandescant white light turned very distinctly yellow (white lights looked like car foglights). I eventually went off of it due to problems w/ becoming overaggressive, losing strength, sugar cravings, depression and irritability (never had a drug that sucked so much). Roughly 3-4 days after last dose the yellow lights went away. The only other drug that I both started and stopped at around the same time was intranasal androdiol. I realize that lipo- is not the same chemical as DNP, however, they supposedly do operate using similiar methods...I wonder if DNP also causes this white incandescant light turning yellow sort of thing? --Jeff | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1022 |
I never had vision problems with dnp, but then I only did one cycle. I know clomid and viagra can also cause visual problems. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 8 |
Well, from what I've read, if you are a woman and you want to take DNP, you shouldn't plan on having children. Although the DNP is out of your system in a matter of days, it remains in a womans ovaries, which would result in severe birth defects. I think the issue with the cataracts will always be debatable, especially seeing that the 1% of people who developed cataracts were women, but also that they were severely deficient in Vitamin C. Whenever I put someone on a DNP cycle, I just make sure they are using plenty of VitC, a multi-vit/min/antiox. supplement, drink plenty of water, eat enough carbohydrates, and take pyruvate. I have taken up to 800mg/day and I never had problems with my eyes, although I did feel like shit. It's quite worth it in my opinion. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 348 |
why would you have to take the pyruvate??? If this is something widely known I'm sorry.....just kinda curious. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 689 |
I actually talked to my ophthalmologist last week about the correlation between free radicals and disorders of the eye like macular degeneration, glaucoma and cataracts. He concludes that these problems seemed to stem from genetics more than diet or increased levels of free radicals. While diet may increase the chances of cataracts in a person genetically prone to the condition, he felt that it was not a deciding factor as to whether one would develop cataracts. From what we discussed, I can only assume that while taking more supplements to protect your body from the free radicals brought about by DNP is a good idea, it will not affect your chances of developing cataracts. This of course is only the oppinion of one doctor but I thought it might be interesting to discuss. I would like to hear any research that anyone has dug up on the effect of free radicals and disorders of the eye. giantset | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Green, 200mg/day will make you feel warm not hot&sweaty. This dosage will make you lose 3-5lbs/week easy. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
FONZ, Your point to Green that 200mg a day will make you feel warm not hot and sweaty yet still make some good fat lose gains? When you say you can lose 3 to 5 pounds in a week you mean just fat right? I left a reply above greens asking the same question about using for the first time at low dosages. I'm at 7% now and am doing everything right to keep losing fat. The last thing i want is muscle loss. I want to compete as high in the middle weights as possible. Other guys are telling me you need a minimum of 600mg a day. I have found with all the products I take I can take half of what most people advise and get damn good results. This keeps the side very low. Thanks for your help. kdtl61 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: However told you 600mg/day minimum has never done a low dosage cycle. 600mg/day you will sweat and will lose about 13-15lbs in 2 weeks. I do this when I'm on VACATION or have time off because being sweaty in front of my classmates is not my idea of fun. At 200mg/day you will lose 3-5lbs of FAT depending on your diet. If you eat strict as usual+ECA(for hunger control), 5lbs a week is easily achievable. You won't be sweaty either just "warm". You will sweat a lot during your workouts and during cardio though. But who cares bout sweating during a workout. Hope that helped....... Godspeed | ||
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Freak
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Right on Fonz. Thanks for the info. Do you think it's cool to take DNP while I'm on my cycle? LAter, Green | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1244 |
Yeah, but use it in a cutting cycle. Godspeed | ||
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Novice
Posts: 9 |
Thanks for all the comments guys! I�ll think i will mail the iron game though he seems to be very knowledgeble!! |
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posted March 23, 2001 08:11 AM