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Mohammad Ali

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posted March 22, 2001 07:35 PM

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Allright, I been reading a bunch of posts etc.. and most of them state you need Insulin to make GH work succesfully. I really dont want to fuck with my thyroid and would prefer to avoid the use of Insulin, but if it's what the doctor ordered then i got no choice.

Right now, I'm on 16 I.U's of GH daily,while taking 150mg of Winstrol a week. Body weight is 178lbs with 8.7 BF.. I'm trying to bring BF down to about 4%.. Some advice/opinions would be nice. thanks!


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Shredder21

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posted March 22, 2001 08:27 PM

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Being shredded is awesome bro, but 4% bf? Are you getting ready to compete or go on Spring Break? I don't think that is very healthy to stay at that low of a level for a extended period of time. As far as GH, I have only researched that to obtain maximum results, it should be stacked with some type of test, slin, and t3. However, this stack is not set in stone. If you are trying to reach 4%, then I wouldn't add the insulin to your GH/Winny cycle. The added slin is more for a optimal mass/growth GH cycle and you sound like you want more of a cutting type cycle so stick with the GH and winny. Just my $.02. Will bump you for more opinions.

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rich197

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posted March 22, 2001 08:35 PM

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I would have to agree that the slin is not good for cutting but I would add an androgen like fina and some T3 to really pull the bf off


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OMEGALOS

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posted March 22, 2001 08:46 PM

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Dude, you seem a bit confused, insulin doesnt affect your natural thyroid hormone production at all, thats the t3 or t4 that you take with gh.
Taking Gh lowers your natural production of insulin and t3, thats why you replace it with these items to get them back up.
As to your bodyfat, 8.7 seems to be very good to me. If you see visible bodyfat at this level have it checked again, its probably wrong! Use the caliper method in 3 or more sites.
4% is extreme unless your competing.
I would stay at around 9%, take the gh with 500+ mg of test, 4-10iu slin, and 25-50 mg t3 a day, oh
and 16iu!!! a day!!! that is fucking a lot! What a strain on the budget! Thats like going through a full kit in a week bro are you sure? You must be either rich or really miscalculating.


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40butpumpin

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posted March 22, 2001 08:48 PM

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Bro, you are on 16 IU's of GH daily? Bro, you better go do your homework because you can get a really fucked up illness from excessive doses of GH where your entire arm and feet become GROSELY enlarged...FOR LIFE! I'm serious, I've seen pics in med. journals, trust me, you don't want to have this.


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Mohammad Ali

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posted March 22, 2001 08:56 PM

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Was high when I wrote the post so messed up a bit.. let me xplain.. Taking 16 I.U's of Gh mixed with the sterile water, so I think that comes out to 3I.U's of pure GH.. The Insulin part, cant make a excuse for that as I thought it was required for cutting.. I see now that it's T3. Anyways.. i get the idea and thanks a lot for your responses.


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40butpumpin

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posted March 22, 2001 09:03 PM

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Bro, it doesn't matter if you mix 16 IU's with 10 gallons of water, 16IU's is still 16 IU's. Better look into it, bro.


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OMEGALOS

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posted March 22, 2001 09:07 PM

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Yes, its about 3iu, that sounds more like it. Stay off the crack now! he he


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