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 the 5000 cal rule for bulking is BS
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I have come to the realization that the whole 5000 cal rule for bulking is bunk... I learned this the hard way...
When eating 3500 cals(500 cals over what i need to maintain muscle mass) I did not put on any fat and got 8lbs LBM gain so far(beginning of week 4)
For instance... If i start my cycle at 250lbs at 6% bf... I eat 5000 cals... 10 weeks later i am 275 at 10% bf. Or I start my cycle at 250lbs at 6% bf... I eat 3500cals...10 weeks later i am 265 at 6% bf.... The 2 are the same... Except in the second on, there is no fat gain     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 504 |
I AGREE, EVEN WHEN I'M BULKING, ITS TRUE I EAT MORE THAN NORMAL WITH A SHITLOAD OF PROTEIN, BUT I NEVER GO TO EXTREMELY HIGH CALORIE DIETS. ------------------ I am Conan, the Ironbarbarian back from the deep dark hell! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 341 |
I believe everyone has to calculate their specific caloric needs. A high calorie diet does not apply for everyone. All those extra calories that you dont use will just go towards fat storage. For myself, I dont believe in loading up on extreme calories. I go with what I know about my body and what are my needs. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1045 |
Yea bro I hear what your saying, I mean if I don't eat high cals I don't grow! If I do eat high cals I expode!! Its all about the individual, no one can tell anyone elses needs! Mass Monster | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 36 |
Just for the sake of being redundant, it is all about you. If it works for you, that is good enough reason in my book, no matter what anyone says. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1197 |
I eat 6000Kcal while on cycles, and I'm 225lbs. Wy don't I get fat? BECAUSE I DON'T GO CRAZY ON THE CARBS!!! Eat a 60%prot/30%carbs/10%fat diet while on 5000Kcal a day and you will gain more muscle and much less fat. Protein intake makes or breaks a good mass cycle in terms of muscle gain/fat gained. Godspeed | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2093 |
I seems as though Ive mentioned this a few times recently. I agree. WCP ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 869 |
I personally disagree with that many Kcals... I think you can make more quality gains off of a lower Kcal diet. Yes I understand that everyone is different, and some people need more Kcals than other, but this is just my opinion. Fonz, If your consumming 5000Kcals a day, and your protein is 60% of your diet. That means your taking in 3000Kcals from protein a day right? Thats 750grams of protein in one day. If that works for you more power to you. I personally feel thats way to much protein for someone. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1090 |
Rugby, I have been saying this all along. I think protein intake is far more important that calorie intake. I have eaten 5,000+ calories per day in the past with only eating around 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, and I got really fat. True I got much bigger, but I added a ton of bodyfat. I decided to give the high protein diet a chance. I started eating around 350-400 grams per day. I haven't been on a cycle in months, yet I am bigger and stronger and leaner than I have ever been! And I'm only eating around 3,000 cals per day, yet I am way bigger than I've ever been. I just don't buy this stuff yourself all day mentality. But, like everybody says, do what works for you. -TG |
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posted March 22, 2001 06:49 PM
